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 The Draft
ThinMan
Posted: Jun 5 2012, 06:22 AM


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Offbase
Posted: Jun 5 2012, 08:18 AM


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I watched it and you'd think the Red Sox were 30th of 30 teams in draft success based on the commentary. But I don't know how you can evaluate a draft until the kids reach or don't reach AA. It's fun to follow, but I'll leave the evaluation to the scouts.

And then there's the new CBA which appears to have had a very large impact on the drafting strategy. What the Sox apparently did, according to some comments at Soxprospects, is go for lower ceiling, higher floor picks with the aim of staying under the first round "slot" money.

EDIT: Here's the glass half full evaluation of Marrero from Alex Speier.


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tracey
Posted: Jun 6 2012, 09:28 AM


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QUOTE (Offbase @ Jun 5 2012, 08:18 AM)
I watched it and you'd think the Red Sox were 30th of 30 teams in draft success based on the commentary. But I don't know how you can evaluate a draft until the kids reach or don't reach AA. It's fun to follow, but I'll leave the evaluation to the scouts.

And then there's the new CBA which appears to have had a very large impact on the drafting strategy. What the Sox apparently did, according to some comments at Soxprospects, is go for lower ceiling, higher floor picks with the aim of staying under the first round "slot" money.

EDIT: Here's the glass half full evaluation of Marrero from Alex Speier.

money is tightning.do any of these kids have mlb potential or trade value.


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Offbase
Posted: Jun 6 2012, 11:42 AM


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QUOTE (tracey @ Jun 6 2012, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (Offbase @ Jun 5 2012, 08:18 AM)
I watched it and you'd think the Red Sox were 30th of 30 teams in draft success based on the commentary.  But I don't know how you can evaluate a draft until the kids reach or don't reach AA.  It's fun to follow, but I'll leave the evaluation to the scouts.

And then there's the new CBA which appears to have had a very large impact on the drafting strategy.  What the Sox apparently did, according to some comments at Soxprospects, is go for lower ceiling, higher floor picks with the aim of staying under the first round "slot" money.

EDIT: Here's the glass half full evaluation of Marrero from Alex Speier.

money is tightning.do any of these kids have mlb potential or trade value.

Aren't you the one who thinks we can't know that until they get to AA or AAA? I enjoy knowing their names before AA but that's about it, and any kind of evaluation now is for those who know more than we can ever find out. And even they are wrong most of the time.


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ThinMan
Posted: Jun 6 2012, 12:27 PM


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QUOTE (Offbase @ Jun 6 2012, 12:42 PM)
Aren't you the one who thinks we can't know that until they get to AA or AAA? I enjoy knowing their names before AA but that's about it, and any kind of evaluation now is for those who know more than we can ever find out. And even they are wrong most of the time.

I'm pretty sure Tracey considers them all question marks until they're actually in the majors. tongue.gif

The step from high A to AA is the biggest one these kids have to take, and Portland is where we start to see what they're actually capable of. Before that it's all potential.


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tracey
Posted: Jun 6 2012, 02:57 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Jun 6 2012, 12:27 PM)
I'm pretty sure Tracey considers them all question marks until they're actually in the majors. tongue.gif

The step from high A to AA is the biggest one these kids have to take, and Portland is where we start to see what they're actually capable of. Before that it's all potential.

My big issue in this draft was jamies winston who tx took in the 15 t round thank god,had he gone in the 5 or below my seminole would hae lost their starting qb 2 years from now,thin is correct you know nothing til we see the kids in the AA for a while.


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Posted: Jun 6 2012, 05:59 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Jun 6 2012, 01:27 PM)
I'm pretty sure Tracey considers them all question marks until they're actually in the majors. tongue.gif

The step from high A to AA is the biggest one these kids have to take, and Portland is where we start to see what they're actually capable of. Before that it's all potential.

And the thing nobody can know before it happens is whether the kids still love the game when it becomes a job, and whether they'll comprehend what it takes to do the job well. They're all talented, and some in that 17-22 age range haven't grown enough to show what their ceiling is. But Nava is living proof that wanting it counts.


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