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 2012 Yankees
ThinMan
Posted: Apr 26 2012, 04:42 PM


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Michael Pineda to have season-ending shoulder surgery. Suddenly their starting pitching depth is looking quite a bit shallower.


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rominer
Posted: Apr 26 2012, 05:13 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Apr 26 2012, 01:42 PM)
Michael Pineda to have season-ending shoulder surgery. Suddenly their starting pitching depth is looking quite a bit shallower.

You forget about Andy Pettitte's new HGH prescription.


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Posted: Apr 26 2012, 05:46 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Apr 26 2012, 05:42 PM)
Michael Pineda to have season-ending shoulder surgery. Suddenly their starting pitching depth is looking quite a bit shallower.

I was surprised by the trade - not because the Mariners let him go, but because the MFY's ignored the fairly obvious red flag of first half performance / second half performance disconnect.

He was soooo good, and then he wasn't. It was too dramatic a change. I don't think he was injured at the time of the trade, I think he was fatigued in the second half (normal for a young pitcher), but maybe pushed himself too hard and didn't recover. He weakened something and had an injury waiting to happen.

Even so, he and the folks in the Bronx might have gotten lucky. Instead, the rest of the AL East has an easier road ahead. For now.


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tracey
Posted: May 1 2012, 01:59 PM


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QUOTE (Offbase @ Apr 26 2012, 05:46 PM)
I was surprised by the trade - not because the Mariners let him go, but because the MFY's ignored the fairly obvious red flag of first half performance / second half performance disconnect.

He was soooo good, and then he wasn't. It was too dramatic a change. I don't think he was injured at the time of the trade, I think he was fatigued in the second half (normal for a young pitcher), but maybe pushed himself too hard and didn't recover. He weakened something and had an injury waiting to happen.

Even so, he and the folks in the Bronx might have gotten lucky. Instead, the rest of the AL East has an easier road ahead. For now.

for me its about the lineup which seems old though i still believe they have the best player in the division now in cano.


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ThinMan
Posted: May 1 2012, 03:24 PM


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They can have Cano. I'm very happy with our 2nd baseman.


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tracey
Posted: May 1 2012, 03:39 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ May 1 2012, 03:24 PM)
They can have Cano. I'm very happy with our 2nd baseman.

we have 2 and 3 petey and gonzo,i just wish i could get behind this pitching staff,i cant help but think they have the edge.


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rominer
Posted: May 2 2012, 12:12 PM


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I have a hard time buying that Cano is the best player in the division. He's obviously in the mix, but I don't think it's even a given that he's the best player on the Yankees (Curtis Granderson would have an argument there).

Jose Bautista in the past couple of years, and Evan Longoria over the course of his career – and with the trajectory that he's on – both come to mind as arguably better than Cano.

Matt Wieters is a guy who I wouldn't call "better" – but if I'm building a team out of players in this division, I'd probably pick him before picking Cano.


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Posted: May 2 2012, 07:13 PM


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QUOTE (tracey @ May 1 2012, 02:59 PM)
QUOTE (Offbase @ Apr 26 2012, 05:46 PM)
I was surprised by the trade - not because the Mariners let him go, but because the MFY's ignored the fairly obvious red flag of first half performance / second half performance disconnect.

He was soooo good, and then he wasn't.  It was too dramatic a change.  I don't think he was injured at the time of the trade, I think he was fatigued in the second half (normal for a young pitcher), but maybe pushed himself too hard and didn't recover. He weakened something and had an injury waiting to happen.

Even so, he and the folks in the Bronx might have gotten lucky.  Instead, the rest of the AL East has an easier road ahead. For now.

for me its about the lineup which seems old though i still believe they have the best player in the division now in cano.

David Ortiz is our best player right now according to Fangraphs.

Do you know who's second on our team and well ahead of Cano?

Mike Aviles.

I agree with Thin, they can have Cano.


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tracey
Posted: May 3 2012, 07:31 AM


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love loyalty,but its hard to argue what we have seen,pedey is great but hestill is the second best 2nd baseman,maybe wieters is who you start with because of the position,but for now ill stand on my belief.


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ThinMan
Posted: May 3 2012, 08:56 AM


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QUOTE (tracey @ May 3 2012, 08:31 AM)
love loyalty,but its hard to argue what we have seen,pedey is great but hestill is the second best 2nd baseman,maybe wieters is who you start with because of the position,but for now ill stand on my belief.

It's still early in the season of course. We still need another 100 PA from each before this reaches the level of statistically significant. But so far in 2012, in 109 PA for Pedroia and 107 for Cano, Pedroia has a TAv of .282 and Cano .231.

So far in 2012 Cano has been the better player, by a lot. The Yankees can have Cano. Any statement that Cano is the better second baseman, this year at least, is based on the lure of the magic pinstripes, not anything to do with reality.


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