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 Bobby V being Bobby V
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Posted: Apr 23 2012, 06:54 PM


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QUOTE (macs3rd @ Apr 23 2012, 07:36 PM)
I don't know as much as some about baseball as some. I am not crazy about Valentine, but to me, the most embarassing thing that has happenned this season was the booing at Fenway yesterday. It is April, this guy was hired while Cherrington was interviewing other people. He has made some asshole statements, but for Chrissake I think Red Sos fans had more class. I was really taken aback and it bothered me all day.

I don't like the booing, but I really believe it's mostly displeasure with the way Tito was thrown under the bus. And that is boo worthy.


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The young Bill James rather famously wrote that he could not find any evidence that certain types of players could consistently hit better in the clutch – he still has not found that evidence. But unlike his younger self, he will not dismiss the idea of clutch hitting. He has been a consultant for the Red Sox for more than a decade, and he has watched David Ortiz deliver so many big hits in so many big moments, and he finds himself unwilling to deny that Big Papi does have an ability in those situations others don’t have.
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Posted: Apr 23 2012, 07:02 PM


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QUOTE (Offbase @ Apr 23 2012, 07:54 PM)
I don't like the booing, but I really believe it's mostly displeasure with the way Tito was thrown under the bus. And that is boo worthy.

I TIOTALLY BOO the way Tito was thrown under the bus,......booing Valentine so badly was unfair


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Posted: Apr 23 2012, 07:35 PM


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QUOTE (macs3rd @ Apr 23 2012, 06:36 PM)
I don't know as much as some about baseball as some. I am not crazy about Valentine, but to me, the most embarassing thing that has happenned this season was the booing at Fenway yesterday. It is April, this guy was hired while Cherrington was interviewing other people. He has made some asshole statements, but for Chrissake I think Red Sos fans had more class. I was really taken aback and it bothered me all day.

Inot sure the fans were and are booing valentine,he has become the symbol of allthat went wrong this offseason and this season so far


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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 02:47 PM


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QUOTE (macs3rd @ Apr 23 2012, 08:02 PM)
booing Valentine so badly was unfair

I disagree. I think that is why he is here.
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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 05:43 PM


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QUOTE (HomeHalf @ Apr 24 2012, 03:47 PM)
I disagree. I think that is why he is here.

???? He is here to get boos? I don't think he needs any ovation right now, and a some boos as the game went down the tubes wouldn't have been a big deal. But the loud loud continous booing, whenever he showed his face was, in imho, was innappropriate. I was embarrassed.


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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 05:54 PM


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QUOTE (macs3rd @ Apr 24 2012, 06:43 PM)
???? He is here to get boos? I don't think he needs any ovation right now, and a some boos as the game went down the tubes wouldn't have been a big deal. But the loud loud continous booing, whenever he showed his face was, in imho, was innappropriate. I was embarrassed.

He's here to act as a magnet for the fans' anger and frustration. And then to take it with him once he's fired.

Yes, I'm feeling cynical today.


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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:36 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Apr 24 2012, 06:54 PM)
He's here to act as a magnet for the fans' anger and frustration. And then to take it with him once he's fired.

Yes, I'm feeling cynical today.

Looking at it from that angle, I'm with Macs - totally unfair.

Bobby seems to be a magnet regardless of why he was brought here, and he's not exactly lovable, but what goes around comes around and treating people fairly is one of those things that comes and goes.



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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:44 PM


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QUOTE (ThinMan @ Apr 24 2012, 05:54 PM)
He's here to act as a magnet for the fans' anger and frustration. And then to take it with him once he's fired.

Yes, I'm feeling cynical today.

wow,we have turned on mgt i never thought it would happen.


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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 06:56 PM


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QUOTE (tracey @ Apr 24 2012, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (ThinMan @ Apr 24 2012, 05:54 PM)
He's here to act as a magnet for the fans' anger and frustration. And then to take it with him once he's fired.

Yes, I'm feeling cynical today.

wow,we have turned on mgt i never thought it would happen.

I think turning on management goes back to early October and the trashing of Tito. Lucchino's never had any fans that I know of.

The jury's out on Cherrington.


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The young Bill James rather famously wrote that he could not find any evidence that certain types of players could consistently hit better in the clutch – he still has not found that evidence. But unlike his younger self, he will not dismiss the idea of clutch hitting. He has been a consultant for the Red Sox for more than a decade, and he has watched David Ortiz deliver so many big hits in so many big moments, and he finds himself unwilling to deny that Big Papi does have an ability in those situations others don’t have.
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Posted: Apr 24 2012, 07:59 PM


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QUOTE (macs3rd @ Apr 23 2012, 07:36 PM)
I don't know as much as some about baseball as some. I am not crazy about Valentine, but to me, the most embarassing thing that has happenned this season was the booing at Fenway yesterday. It is April, this guy was hired while Cherrington was interviewing other people. He has made some asshole statements, but for Chrissake I think Red Sos fans had more class. I was really taken aback and it bothered me all day.

I agree. Give the guy - and the team - some time. Fans don't boo their own team when they're struggling, they applaud them and show them that they are behind them.

It's tough to play well when you're worrying about the fans sticking a knife in your back.


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