Should Duquette be vindicated?

Seriously. He took a lot of heat for not resigning Clemens, saying he was past his prime.

Apparently, Clemens also thought that. The very next year he began PED's.

Not letting Duke off the hook for everything, but I think it's time we realize that not resigning Rocket was not horrible.

Had we done so, it would be the Red Sox and Clemens taking all this heat together.

Food for thought.

I will say this much for Duquette. For most of his tenure the Sox were a credible team, and the gamble on Ramirez was absolutely right. He didn't have a modern grasp of the benefits of the farm system or the grasp of the finer points of drafting that Theo has, but we won more games than we lost under him and he laid a lot of the groundwork for what Theo took to the promised land. Theo had a lot to do with what went down, but Duquette was a fine John the Baptist to Theo's Messiah.

Gotta say yes. This guy was villified for years, looks like he was right after all.

Well...for that part of his tarnished reputation, I'd say perhaps Duquette is due some vindication. Perhaps.

Duquette's larger 'gaffe' and shortcoming in my view was his handling of people. His undermining of Jimy Williams in dealing with Carl Everett was a baaaad situation. The climate he created was not a good one. Can't remember now what I read so long ago but the gist of it was he'd hired detectives to follow Vaughn during his nocturnal outings. Stuff like that gets out and it doesn't create a great atmosphere.

But as far as Clemens goes...'perhaps'. I remember that last year in Boston he had a lot of leads blown for him by the bullpen. I don't know what his peripherals or other stats were off the top of my head. Not sure if they were still good in spite of his W/L record or if they were showing marked decline as well.

Well, he wasn't far off on Vaughn either. I live in Columbus, Ohio, where Mo owns a home, and I personally have seen Vaughn multiple times at the local strip establishment.

Not that I care.. I was there too.. haha. But maybe he had reason to follow him around.

He was also on the report, lets not forget.

Looking at nikkid girls is a performance enhancer.

Seriously though... at the time when Clemens left I wasn't terribly upset as the guy was clearly trending southwards (and I never liked the guy too much either). A year later a kid named Pedro Martinez Duquette dealt for and I wonder if he would have been able if he didn't have the financial resources to do that (the Sox were just a wee bit cheaper than they are now.....).

Signed Damon, Manny, traded for Pedro, Varitek & Lowe, drafted Trot Nixon, Nomar Garciaparra, Kevin Youkilis, Jonathan Papelbon and Hanley Ramirez (turned into Josh Beckett).

The Duque wasn't the greatest player manager but he made some good moves, both in the draft and in trades. He did ignore the farm for the most part and never was willing to add that complimentary starting pitcher for Pedro that could have won. The dropoff from Pedro to the guys lower in the order was significant.

Honestly that's why I've not ever put as much weight into the loss of Clemens as others. I don't think we sign Pedro to that huge contract that we did if Clemens is here making similar money.

rsn underestimated dan,he as other have said by in large did a great job and set theo up to remove us from baseball purgatory.

rsn underestimated dan,he as other have said by in large did a great job and set theo up to remove us from baseball purgatory.

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rsn underestimated dan,he as other have said by in large did a great job and set theo up to remove us from baseball purgatory.

again, here here!
( I'm reading, cooking, online shopping still I am "listening to your conversation carefully.)

macs you are as they say today multitasking?