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 New Rainbow brite movie, if they made a new RBB movie
Deszaras
Posted: Dec 12 2006, 07:53 AM


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QUOTE (StarVoyager @ Dec 11 2006, 02:59 PM)
Please not Tim Burton though. I want to see Rainbow Brite, not a film noir version of Through the Looking Glass. wink.gif

I agree. I like Tim Burton, but he's not a good fit for a RB movie. Honestly, it's hard to imagine a director that would do it right. If there is a RB movie, I don't want her grown up, maybe a young teen, but I think any older ruins her innocence.
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gina
Posted: Dec 12 2006, 11:39 AM


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I think it would be cool to see an established anime director do a RB movie. Maybe like Hayao Miyazaki
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StarVoyager
Posted: Dec 12 2006, 12:11 PM


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An anime director making an animated version or a live-action one?

With regard to Miyazaki, I think he's already done close to an older Rainbow in the form of Princess Nausicaa. Very similar spirit, attitude, attributes of a warrior, but still innocent with a heart of gold; and on a quest to heal Earth and Humanity. Even her outfit bears an interesting resemblance.

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I might take Burton on board, but not to give him full control of the helm. If there was a new Villain or 'dark realm', he'd probably be ideal to create it. A Burton rendition of The Pits, for example would probably be quite interesting.

Of course... that brings up an interesting problem, because how many Tim Burton fans actually WANT to live in that kind of a world? With 'Nightmare' he practically launched the modern Gothic/Punk craze which in a way is like a living incarnation of Murky's vision of a conquered universe. Gloomy, black, no color. rolleyes.gif How would they take to their idea of reality as being presented as the evil force that must be kept at bay? I could almost see some kind of pseudo-racial unrest rising up as a result of it, slamming the movie for being "Anti-Goth."
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SpectralSteel
Posted: Dec 12 2006, 03:25 PM


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QUOTE (Charles Xavier @ Dec 12 2006, 07:00 AM)
QUOTE (SpectralSteel @ Dec 11 2006, 10:49 PM)
I think for an RB movie they should look to some tokusatsu directors. ( tokusatsu are live action Japanese super hero shows ). There has already been a toku version of Sailor Moon which did turn out very well. I think a toku version of Rainbow Brite would be completely awesome.

After all, tokusatsu is proof you can make an entertaining fantasy film or show with a minimal budget. I personally think it's way more entertaining and imaginative than any extravagant, big budget Hollywood movie.


I haven't seen many of those tokusatsu films myself. Are they any good with character development, or is it repetitve action fun with no story? (I might have the wrong idea, sorry).

I'm sure WETA workshop would be an excellent choice for the special effects also. Pan's Labyrinth is definitely not your typical children's fantasy tale, which is what makes it so unique. Please do watch it when you can, everybody. I'm sure you'll agree.

Actually there are quite a lot of tokusatsu with good character deveopement. contrary to popular belief, it isn't all action. I know PGSM while it was on had good character development. The 80's - mid 90's Super Sentai series were very focused on the characters until the 00's series began getting repetitive due to the fact that the series was under license to Disney and they had to dumb it down so it could be more easily made into Power Rangers (just my opinion).Kamen rider has always stressed character development (I highly reccomend Kamen Rider Black), unfortunately the newer series feel too much like a soap opera. Overall there are some interesting ideas in this genre, it needn't be action oriented. I know that action definitely wouldn't work for RB, but the type of toku style costumes and special effects would be something to see. there have been non action oriented toku directed at children, so it's possible to make one for audiences of all ages.

I like the idea of Miyazaki directing as well. Who knows it might make a good anime film.
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Charles Xavier
Posted: Dec 12 2006, 11:16 PM


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I do recall suggesting Hayao Miyazaki too for RB, on a different thread. His son, Goro Miyazaki, recently made an animated film called Gedo Senki, based on the 'Tales From Earthsea' books. He may be able to make a good RB anime film.
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SpectralSteel
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 03:08 AM


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QUOTE (Charles Xavier @ Dec 12 2006, 11:16 PM)
I do recall suggesting Hayao Miyazaki too for RB, on a different thread. His son, Goro Miyazaki, recently made an animated film called Gedo Senki, based on the 'Tales From Earthsea' books. He may be able to make a good RB anime film.

Oh yeah. I remember reading about that somewhere. It sounds interesting.
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SpectralSteel
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 03:36 AM


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QUOTE (StarVoyager @ Dec 12 2006, 12:11 PM)
Of course... that brings up an interesting problem, because how many Tim Burton fans actually WANT to live in that kind of a world? With 'Nightmare' he practically launched the modern Gothic/Punk craze which in a way is like a living incarnation of Murky's vision of a conquered universe. Gloomy, black, no color. rolleyes.gif How would they take to their idea of reality as being presented as the evil force that must be kept at bay? I could almost see some kind of pseudo-racial unrest rising up as a result of it, slamming the movie for being "Anti-Goth."

Ok. I have to get this off my chest. Punk and Goth are nothing alike. Two very different types of music and two very different cultures. I know the lines may be blurred to you younger generations who don't even know what punk rock is or what it's really about because of all this garbage that's being mis-labelled as punk and all the kids who call themselves punk, just because they think it makes them cool. It's greatly annoying when corporations take a musical movement and try to cash in on it and turn it into another product. Hence all the whiny, "I'm so dark" goth bands being labeled as punk. One thing that punk isn't about is feeling powerless in a dark world, it is very empowering music and many bands try to get people to get up and do something, to try to make a change in their world. To stand up against injustice (even if it is considered contraversial).It's just as annoying as people labeling goth bands as metal, when they know very well they're not. Punk has existed since the seventies and never truly died. It's just been underground, like metal.

I take it you would know a bit about metal, having Nightwish lyrics in your signature. If so, you might also know how metal is misunderstood as well. Too many lousy nu-metal(false metal) bands giving people the wrong idea of the music. This is because record companies find something new and market it as something else to appeal to kids who don't know any better. Thus we have false metal and false punk marketed to unknowing kids by corporations who don't care about the music or what it's about, where it came from, or where it stands.

I know about this because both metal and punk are two very important types of music to me and all these misunderstandings just keep building a negative name for each genre.

If you want to try some good (real) punk bands I reccomend: Bad Religion, The Ramones, NoFX, Pennywise, Dead Kennedys, Authority Zero, Anti-Flag, The Methadones, GBH, The Exploited, The Casualties, Cheap Sex, Screeching Weasel, The Descendants, and I could go on and on with this list, but these bands should give you an idea of what punk is about. Many are very political, however, so they may not fit your tastes. However due to my political leanings they fit my taste quite well.
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StarVoyager
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 01:16 PM


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Sorry, I guess I should've been a bit more specific. I didn't mean Goth AND Punk, but Goth-Punk, which I generally don't even describe as being directly linked to the musical origins at all. Unfortunately, as with all forms of entertainment (some of my IRL friends' interpretations of what RB is really about that tend to annoy me, for example) the population in some cases distorts things, or hijacks them and then claims them as their own and it becomes a totally new animal. This is the Goth-punk I'm referring to. Hot Topic is their bible for what's popular and fashionable (interesting paradox since the original intent was to be unique, not follow a trend). The trouble I have with a lot of music-based attitudes is there's always too many people who join the crowd just for the purpose of being in a crowd. Just by example, most people I know IRL who hate G.W. Bush are posers. And I know this because I then ask them why they hate him, and can never get an informed answer of any kind beyond the most basic buzz conversations. Anti-government is a fashion statement now and it's a real challenge for me to come across people who actually know what they're talking about. Don't take what I just said as a judgement on the crowds as a whole though. I know there are also plenty of people who actually believe what they claim to believe in.. and more importantly actually understand what they believe in. I'm not trying to launch a social/political argument.

The Goth-Punk crowd I described (which possibly may just be what gets referred to as Emo now) are the people who I think could end up flipping over an RB movie.

P.S. thanks for reminding me of that sig. It's been hanging around for over a year. I should probably update it. rolleyes.gif
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Charles Xavier
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 07:45 PM


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I wonder...should a new RB movie reboot the entire series and start the story again with a new fresh conception of our colorful heroine? Perhaps the movie could tell how Wisp became RB, and what encounters she faced along the way. It could be a good opportunity to introduce new characters...and give RB a more philosophical depth.

EDIT: Another idea that occurred to me: I'd die to see a more agressive and heartless Stormy, who has an incredibly sour relation with RB. More like a Goku-Vegeta syndrome, whereas there's endless competition between them to be top dog.
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StarVoyager
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 08:51 PM


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Oh gawd, not a reboot. The money-bags would ruin it like they ruin everything they try to remake.

I think Goku-Vegeta would be a bit TOO violent and hateful of a rivalry for RB/Stormy. I don't think they'd ever be pulled to such extreme ends that they'd try to outright kill each other. As pseudo-Goddesses, though they're opposite ends of the coin, they also both must understand (even if their egos sometimes cloud this) the necessary balance of nature. The Earth couldn't survive without both RB and Stormy. Remove either one and the ecosystem is destroyed.

I would like to see more depth to Stormy's character though. Winter is always heavily misunderstood and unappreciated, and I always felt that has a lot to do with why Stormy is so grouchy. Stormy sees the beauty in it and everyone else only sees the bad, whereas just about anyone can appreciate the beauty of Rainbow's work.
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SpectralSteel
Posted: Dec 13 2006, 11:21 PM


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I don't think I would care for such a harsh rivalry between Rainbow and Stormy. I think a friendly rivalry would be entertaining, but something as cut-throat as Vegeta and Goku is something I would find rather disconcerting.

While a reboot may be interesting if done right, I think they should leave out philosophical elements and keep it fun and lighthearted. Having the characters reach an adult form and having some of them experience feelings for each other would be interesting. you can have a good show with character depth without getting all philosphical. That's one of my main problems with modern anime. They're all trying to be deeper than the last without thinking of being entertaining. It's all this "Who am I? Why am I here" stuff takes away from the actual plot and makes me think the writers just got lazy.
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Charles Xavier
Posted: Dec 14 2006, 05:06 AM


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Well, that's one way I like to see Stormy, it needn't be so violent as you might imagine. Agree with me or not, I speculate whether Stormy might be related to RB, twins perhaps? Twins are known to fight a lot among each other...

As for a reboot, I always to keep an open mind when dealing with them. I don't think all of them are terrible, but I have seen some pretty awful ones. Would it make any difference if a new RB was reimagined through say...Hayao Miyazaki (as mentioned before) or some other famous manga artist such (maybe Naoko Takeuchi)?
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StarVoyager
Posted: Dec 15 2006, 10:02 AM


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I think Stormy & Rainbow's job entices them to fight with each other enough.

I don't know about the twins thing though. Secret family relations is another very overdone plot hook these days. And I'm thinking that you're considering this as a reboot plot, because in the original, it doesn't add up. Where was Stormy when Wisp first arrived in Rainbowland? Was she already there, did she follow later?

Keep in mind it's also a foregone conclusion that the powers of Stormy (and Skydancer) are inherent and don't come from a talisman like the belt. Skydancer can produce lightning, rain, and ride the skies unaided. Stormy doesn't activate any kind of device to produce weather.
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Charles Xavier
Posted: Dec 15 2006, 05:49 PM


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QUOTE (StarVoyager @ Dec 15 2006, 10:02 AM)
Where was Stormy when Wisp first arrived in Rainbowland? Was she already there, did she follow later?

That's probably a good plot hole to fill in for a RB movie, if it's meant to continue off from the original story. I predict Stormy has a very dark history, which could explain her likeness of winter and coldness. It's odd how we always see her making heavy rain, and we never see her make snow. It comes to show that Stormy could have some sort of grudge or anger buried beneath her.
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From all the Rainbow Brite candidates above, my favorite is Hayden Leslie Panettiere, although my only concern is that she'd be too old. She's 16 or thereabouts. Unless the movie was going for a more mature audience, I'd prefer to see children in the roles. That picture of her from the Titans movie really resembles her, though. smile.gif For an older Krys, that actor is dead on. wink.gif

And might I suggest Devon Aoki as "my favorite character": rolleyes.gif

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I saw a fan-made trailer on youtube of a live-action RB movie, in which they used the actress from Aeon Flux as RB and Tilda Swinton as the Princess. I had about ten different kinds of fits. It's bad enough Swinton had to ruin the White Witch, but now her fans are plunking her in every single evil role. I mean, I sort of saw how some people might like her as Jadis, but the Dark Princess? There's nothing about Swinton or her acting which makes me think of her. unsure.gif I think Devon resembles her a lot more. rainbowsmile.gif

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