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Title: Desert Beastmen?
Description: Do they exist?


eversilentone - April 14, 2012 08:04 PM (GMT)
As per the title really. I mean there are scrub forests in the out back in Australia, ruddy red soil everywhere. Could that be a home for Beastmen?

EDIT: here's the sort of desert forest I mean:

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snowblizz - April 14, 2012 09:53 PM (GMT)
Pretty much anywhere could be a home for Beastmen. Provided they have something to eat and drink.
And some kind of Chaos taint I'd say.

Deep forests and mountains are the best because they have game and give them a certain refuge. As relatively small units they are liable to be hunted down in parts if confronted by a large and well organized adversary. Which is how the Empire managed to carve out their living space from the forest.

Hircinus - April 15, 2012 04:56 AM (GMT)
Ha ha :lol: that should be fine as stated above. The modeling possibilities are interesting.

mrtn - April 15, 2012 09:48 AM (GMT)
Look at the map in the 6th ed armybook, both "africa" and "antarctica" are filled with beastmen.

furrie - April 15, 2012 12:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mrtn @ Apr 15 2012, 09:48 AM)
Look at the map in the 6th ed armybook, both "africa" and "antarctica" are filled with beastmen.

penguinmen would be a great conversion project :P

snowblizz - April 15, 2012 02:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mrtn @ Apr 15 2012, 09:48 AM)
Look at the map in the 6th ed armybook, both "africa" and "antarctica" are filled with beastmen.

Neither part which are really "deserts" though. The Beastmen in the Southlands are concentrated to the jungle and mountainous parts.


Unlike our own world the poles aren't really cold. The closer you get to the polar warpgates the warmer it seems to get again. Ie while the Troll Country is really cold it doesn't turn into solid ice even further north, it seems to become somewhat more habitable. If you can survive massive warp energy that is.

Shadespyre - April 15, 2012 11:07 PM (GMT)
Beastmen could live pretty much anywhere that pre-Industrial humans do in the real world. Although it's a pretty poor forest all those plants mean there is available water, which is the main hurdle. Aboriginal Australians certainly did okay in the outback, and they provide some awesome ideas for the look of an army!

It doesn't look like it would offer much cover, so perhaps your Aussie Scrub Beastmen are mainly nocturnal. Perhaps their herdstones are located in hidden sheltered gullies and valleys, or they make use of caves to hide from the heat of the sun. They are probably more thinly spread and even more nomadic than Old World beastmen, only gathering for war or perhaps in the brief rainy season when food is plentiful.

As the terrain is more open, it might suit fast moving units like centigors and chariots. Perhaps large packs of chaos dingos are used to chase prey! Or perhaps the poor tree cover means more stealth is required - lots of raiders, lots of Lore of Shadow?

I think it could work fine, and look a little different to other Beastman armies.

The Charioteer - April 22, 2012 01:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shadespyre @ Apr 15 2012, 11:07 PM)
Aboriginal Australians certainly did okay in the outback, and they provide some awesome ideas for the look of an army!


I laughed. So. Hard.
(Its fashionable for them to be the but of our jokes here in aus.)

mrtn - April 22, 2012 08:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (snowblizz @ Apr 15 2012, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (mrtn @ Apr 15 2012, 09:48 AM)
Look at the map in the 6th ed armybook, both "africa" and "antarctica" are filled with beastmen.

Neither part which are really "deserts" though. The Beastmen in the Southlands are concentrated to the jungle and mountainous parts.

No they're not, there's a big blob in southern Araby, and that's certainly filled with mountains, but as it's just by the great desert I doubt it's very jungly.

Hircinus - April 22, 2012 11:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Charioteer @ Apr 22 2012, 01:33 AM)

(Its fashionable for them to be the but of our jokes here in aus.)

No. It's not. Really, it isn't. <_< And anybody who thinks so needs a reality check.

Shadespyre - April 22, 2012 06:28 PM (GMT)
You know, somehow I knew mentioning Aborigines would either upset someone or allow someone else to upset someone...

I really don't see that my comments constitute a joke, let alone one at anyone's expense, but if it does that wasn't my intent and I apologise.

The only people I think it is okay to abuse as a generic group are stupid people...

Btw it's "butt" of jokes, not "but".

mrtn - April 22, 2012 08:30 PM (GMT)
Making racist jokes is clearly covered by the forum rules, and if anyone wants to make some I've got my Ban Stick right here... :nono:

Now, lets get back to desert beastmen, shall we? :shrug:

Shadespyre - April 22, 2012 08:56 PM (GMT)
Wait - am I still allowed to pick on stupid people though? :huh:

Anyhow, I was hoping eversilentone (who I keep reading as ever silent tone!) would come back and tell us his thoughts. I think this project could be a bit like Garganthor's Cannibals - dark skinned models with lots of white face paint - only with beastmen models and less giant apes (shame, but maybe he can find giant wallabies, kangaroos, echidna or platypi?). Emus! Giant riding emus! What else is Australian? Crocodiles? Bunyips? What does a bunyip look like anyway?

Not for the first time, this is a project I wish I'd thought of before I painted 300 odd Beastmen...

CrazyRossBoy - April 22, 2012 09:10 PM (GMT)
Isnt the fluff for centigor bassed on them living on the open planes/desert

it could work well for a gorros themed MSU army

eversilentone - April 22, 2012 09:40 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the feedback! After a long chat with the other half (who is super amazing at painting, unlike me who sucks!) I think I've settled on a colour scheme, something along the lines of:

* black undercoat
* spray the whole lot scorched brown/rhinox hide
* snakebite leather/balor brown on the fur
* burnished gold/auric armour gold for the metal
* wash the lot in one or two coats of badab black/nuln oil
* ceramite white on the horns, teeth, etc, followed by sepia wash

I was hoping for a deep brown that in theory should look the same as the horse on the left (this is his work and his recipe):

Click here, horse on the left

So I was hoping for black skin that was complemented by a dark brown on the fur, sticking to earth tones. For the basing I was thinking about trying to replicate cracked red-earth, with just a smattering of flock here and there to represent the sparsity of foliage.

How does that sound?

P.S. put in my order for my first battalion :) Get them painted up before I order the next one - that's my painting pledge!

P.P.S resized it to make it easier to view :)

Shadespyre - April 22, 2012 10:46 PM (GMT)
Nice horse, that'll be a great skin tone. (Are those Outback Wood Elves for you to fight against? ;) )

BTW, if you make your pics a little smaller it won't drag your text off the edge of my crappy old low res monitor screen... ;)

mrtn - April 23, 2012 06:28 AM (GMT)
Seems like resizr is a crappy way to resize pics, since it isn't available anymore.

snowblizz - April 23, 2012 07:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shadespyre @ Apr 22 2012, 08:56 PM)
... can find giant wallabies, kangaroos, echidna or platypi?). Emus! Giant riding emus! What else is Australian? Crocodiles? Bunyips? What does a bunyip look like anyway?

Death Kiwis. A must as Razorgor.
found here:
http://www.warploqueminiatures.co.uk/

The Charioteer - April 23, 2012 07:31 AM (GMT)
A bunyip looks like a yowie apparently :lol:
We already have a unit that's aussie inspired. The razorgor. :wub:

Shadespyre - April 23, 2012 06:09 PM (GMT)
Hmmm. Fat, hairy, bad tempered, charges at great speed and does horrible damage on impact? Are you telling me that the razorgors are inspired by Aussie legend Merv Hughes???? :o

I like the death kiwi, though it looks more like a cassowary to me...

eversilentone - April 23, 2012 09:33 PM (GMT)
Sorry about that - changed it to a link to the picture instead, hope that's ok?

Click here, horse on the left

Love the death kiwis!

The Charioteer - April 24, 2012 01:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shadespyre @ Apr 23 2012, 06:09 PM)
Hmmm. Fat, hairy, bad tempered, charges at great speed and does horrible damage on impact? Are you telling me that the razorgors are inspired by Aussie legend Merv Hughes???? :o

I like the death kiwi, though it looks more like a cassowary to me...

Actually by the giant bush pig in the movie razorback. but merv was a brilliant guess!




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