Why?, Why do you all believe in this?

Hello everyone, It is to my GREAT pleasure to be writing to you all here on Forbidden Love. My name is Arella, and I have been one to support Robin and Raven's love LONG before it was cool-- (which I'm very glad its finally becoming so!) I've been into the comic books for a long while. Did you all know that when Raven regained her emotions after the defeat of Trigon, she thought she was in love with Dick Grayson (Robin)? Its the truth!
I think that my feelings for this particular love story run deeper than almost anything I can think of. Its been such a long time and the both of them have become so precious and special to me, its not something I could explain to you.
Theyve just become so deeply bound into my memories and my heart, so close to me,a nd I feel they they are old,dear friends.
But then theres that question... why? Well, Let me try to say whats in here. Raven to me is my precious girl. And always will be. The near incomparable amount of tragity that is her life immediately took ahold of my heart. The TV show barely skims the surface of the hugness that her life was, she was a lonely, tortured little girl, born of rape into rape, demonic influence, emense fear and saddness... and she wasnt ever alowed to cry. Her life and her broken heart where what made me have compassion for her, but the fact that the broken heart inside her was good is what made me love her. My sweet silent girl.
And Robin is probably the perfect guy-- am I right, ladies? ha, but seriousley, Dick was always one to give his whole heart to his teamates and his friends and those close to him. We've all seen this.
The thing is, the personalities FIT. Raven and Robins souls would be so extremely compatable. SO much moreso than any sort of relationship Robin might have with Starfire. To me, thats more of a surafce realtionship, and in reality, thats probably where it would stay. Robin and Raven's wouldn't.
It would also develop differently. I think that their love is very much based off of this sort of desperation in difficulty, a rawness, an honestly,an "I'll be there" mentality. Because if not in a romance based way-- ROBIN LOVES RAVEN. She is such an important person in his life.. whom he loves. There are diffent types of love, but love is love, and when you feel it for someone like that, your heart breaks for them in their pain, Ravens case, absoulte tragity.
Robin would be there for her. and They would cling together in the firmness of their connection, their friendship, their "bond". They have this beautiful understanding and care for eachother that serves as an eternal base for so much passion and love. It all just makes sence. Its so beautiful to me.
I have felt this way about them for Lord knows how long. And so I thought I'd share a small bit with you. I wonder though what all of your particular stories are, why theyve effected your hearts, why you think its so perfect. I would really enjoy reading that.

I look forward to meeting you all, God bless-
Arella

Well umm....well...thats confusing! even for me! OK so like oh! I know! That doesn't neccesarly mean Robin lOVES Raven. They have a bond! BUT! That would be cool if it happened! But i think Raven Likes robin. Also I would get another Icon before somone admins you. Your icon is a spoiler for people who havent seen the end yet!

HOPE you have fun here!
tbt
aka ALyssa

What was confusing about it? I reread it and I cant seem to find the difficult bits. anyway, when i said love, I meant love in a way different from romance. you see? the titans all LOVE eachother, becaus they are very close friends and they matter very much toone another, they care for eachother and take care of eachother because you love your friends. Im just saying, that step is already there. I still dont see why this should confuse anybody.
and thanks, i changed it, or rather disposed of it.

XD I understand.

Only, one thing- I thought Raven /did/ love Robin, only Robin didn't love her back. 0.o Myeh.

In any case, at first I wasn't really into the couples at all. And then, suddenly, the Star/Rob pairing seemed so boring to me. Utterly predictable, boring, and it had no interest in me. There was no passion. .....not to be mocking it at all. It's a great pair. Just, to /me/, it was boring.

Then, I noticed the interactions between Robin and Raven, and I fell in their with the idea immediately. Their bond was unpredictable, intriguing, and exciting. You wouldn't expect it. What they had was intimate, not to mention all the other issues it could bring up. It was just /interesting/. A change of pace.

And the more I thought about it, the more I adored them together. They're both serious, dedicated, determined, and a deep inner anger not normally matched. They seem to know each other so well, like the next door neighbor you always had a crush on, but never told them in fear it'd ruin your friendship.

In any case, the love seemed like a romance novel waiting to happen. I'll always love this pair, as long as the Titans show airs.

Yeah, thats the way I thought of it too, Raven falling in love with Robin but him only loving her as a friend, you know..... but because they are so close in that theyre always there for eachother in the depth of their needs, and they both care about eachother in ONE WAY OR ANOTHER..... it could evolve into something bigger very very fast.

It's not really my main ship. I don't feel for R/R so... erm... deeply. I jus' read the fanfictions and met some of the authors (who are a LOT more interesting than the ones for my itty-bitty pairing), and ended up a sort of part-timer. I won't back it to the death, but a lot of y'all write it dang well.

From my point of view, I think that Raven had a thing for Robin since Birthmark (or earlier) But, I'm not pretty sure if Robin feels the same thing toward Raven.

Yes, Raven did love Robin in the comics. But then, Starfire found out about their relationship, and had a girl-talk with Raven. Starfire convinced Raven that there are many types of "Love". After the prank Rae/Star made to Robin, their relationship (Rob/Rae) just ended there.

I believe that's not accurate, but it was close.

Anyway, while Raven had a thing for Robin, I'm pretty sure BB had a thing for Rae too. That would be a perfect chance for us to see a love triangle happening on the show. But, I doubt it.

Acutally, if it's Starfire-Robin-Raven-Beast Boy, is it still a triangle?

Poor Cyborg, he's only got Sara (I think... That's what I've heard, anyway...)

Eh, I acutally wrote up a semi-essay on why they click. I'll post it when I have the time.

Why?

Well, I already have a history for going for 'forbidden' parings. The usual ones are all the same: the innocent and naive 'main girl' and the all powerfull and corageous 'main boy' get to be together... If the 'main boy' has a dark past he will just get over it and change personalities and the 'main girl' will just accept that one day he did things that were not very nice and they will live happyly ever after.
No thanks, I like conflict. I like when they work out their problems together, when both are flawed and need to overcome their inner demons. I hate the farytale perfectness feeling. It's not real. I see problems as a chance to be a better person, to prove myself, and learn new things. A paring like StarfireXRobin does not offer the same appeal to me as RavenXRobin, because it is 'the farytale ideal' and think about it: ok so Robin and Starfire would be married but everytime Robin needed someone who could really understand him, he would have to seek someome else because his wife just could not. Perfect. Or he could just ignore it and be miserable. Yeah, would work just right.

I also happen to like ReiXShinji (Evangelion) and HermioneXSeverus (Harry Potter). I also would like to say that I am still disapointed with most RavenXRobin Fanfiction quallity, I gues WIKTT and Aswhinder (the HermioneXSeverus fanlist and Fanfiction archive) spoiled me rotten...

*shrugs* I agree with DeaAyanami, mostly, on this one- I support it strongly because I don't like Rob/Star or BB/Rae very much, and because I have this thing for the unlikely pairing... But I also support it because they've got chemistry- I don't know, they just seem to have a very deep friendship bond that could lead to a romance.

~Nightlark

That's interesting to read. I knew that most R/R shippers like conflict, and melodrama. And I was right all along.

That's an understandment!

And it's not the melodrama. It's because they don't need to be ooc to be together, and it kind of happens in the other 2 parings. I hate melodrama.

I think if you look at the show seriously, you can tell that Robin may be pretty evenly dispersed in the "closeness" with the Titans, but Raven particularly feels close to Robin. She trusts him specifically and it seems shes more comfertable talking to him, alone, than with the others. Its been established that they have "bond" that was formed in HAUNTED, where she enters him, and they become like one. She draws near to him and him alone on multiple occasions: taking him away when shed stopped time,and then talking to him before the other Titans about what was happening in the church... and the obvious closness they shared in "the end." She seems to feel secure with him in particular. They have a very specail, very true bond that makes them stable intimate characters. Once again, not bashing, but thats just not there with Star and Robin. Its more of a surface thing, the hugs and blushes and "crush" feel of it all. Its... it feels temporary. In all seriousness i dont think it would work. I liked what was said... Robin needs someone equally deep, and Raven needs someone period. No, come to think of it, she needs someone equally deep to. They need that sort of care in their lives, and that level of it. I love this about them.

I live in Brazil, and here we just had the beginning of the 4th season, haven't watched Birthmark yet (and it seems my computer don't have the required codecs for me to watch Birthmark and The End and I just gave up looking for them), but yeah, I also get this feeling. Robins is not all that close to the rest of the team. He was not confortable sharing much of his past with any of the Titans, even seemed annoyed with Starfire when she questioned him too much. Cyborg is much closer to Beast Boy them to Robin, I don't know if this distance is because of his leader position or if is some kind of after effect from the time he spent with Batman, but I guess it is a bit of both.

Both are deep charaters, coplicated past and so on. Starfire... Well, ok, so she has a sister with attitude problems and should be a the ruler of her planet, but she does not have what it takes do be a leader, so she does not exacly understand some of Robin's actions ans decisions. It is clear in that Mad Mod 4th Jully episode, each of the Titans had a different plan:
Starfire wanted to rescue Robin because HE would know what to do.
Raven wanted to go for the main control and destroy it - Which would be something Robin would decide to do - she just did not have the same leadership experience and tact, so her plan did not work.

I don't know about any of you, but I can see it clearly some day Robin and Raven discussing the best course of action for some situation or another, late at night, while all of the other titans were asleep, over a cup of tea/cofee. After all, in the episode Terra comes back, It is Raven up there with Robin controling the obstacles, not Starfire. Robin also seems to treasure VERY much Ravens trust and opinion. He just not have this kind of interaction with Starfire. His interaction with Raven reminds me of the way my uncle and aunt interact, after what? Just about 30 years of marriage...

Huh..I agree with you all the way...But like didnt Raven date that eric dude in the comics ???But she found out he was a vampire trying to get her soul self??? Anyway....I luv this paring ALMOST as much as Jesse Mccartney. Mostly because well Raven does kinda show she likes Robin kinda. But like Starfire is in the way too much. grr...