The Abandoning

[GuardianOfOaks]

This is just the result of my curiosity getting the better of me.

Did the Wood Elves split from the High Elves after the Dark Elves came to be?

Because if they split before the DE were created, then there is the possibility of there being Khaine followers amongst the Wood Elves. And another question.

What are the 'primal elven gods' mentioned by GW? I know of Kurnous and Isha but I heard of others too. Like Wardancer God and some other one that starts with "Lian..." or something.

Any help appreciated,
GoO

[Cthclain]

They split after the dark elves formed, but Khaine is still worshiped by high elves but only in battle.

the other gods are ADAMNAN-NA-BRIONHA: The Lord of the Dance he is a wardancer god, and TOROTHAL: Goddess of Rain and Rivers.

[bowmaster]

Yes,the wood elves split after the war against the dwarves when the high elves returned to ulthuan the dark elves were already after breaking away at that stage.Cthclain has mentioned all the gods i can think of so im sorry i cant help you there.

[Ilimer Fleetbow]

Yeah, they stayed at loren forest, were the high elves had set up colonies.

[Sylvan_Stealth]

Hmmm doesnt it say that the Forest back then was as big as the whole Old World?

That means that there is WE in Kislev too. I think in the Kislev designers notes it says that the Kossars sometimes come across WE kindreds embattled by beastmen in the woods and sometimes the WE came to the Kislevites aid during seiges on occasion too....hmm OT i know...

I think that there might be some faint memory of Khaine in the oldest of Wood ELves, though they have abandoned the other HE gods and returned to the natural gods..

[The Inspector]

Yes, the forest did cover the whole of the old world.

After the High Elves left the Dwarfs cut most of it down to spite them.

Like in old day Britain, a squirrel could climb a tree in Brettonia and never touch the ground until he got to Kislev.

[Hummerluver58]

The DE started the war of thebeard and the WE didn't split till the end of the war of the beard. Therefore the WE are the "youngest" elven race

The wardancers worship Leoc (says so in US WD 306)

[Finubar]

As far as i know, amongst elves, Khaine is only worshippd in battle, and by the Dark elves as a main religion. And lets not even mention the Cult Of Pleasure...Ugh. Damned Bit..,i mean Witch, Elves.

[Spirit*Centaur]

GW states many times that GW have abandoned all of the High ELven heritage and turned back to worship the primal elven gods. I guess that includes them leaving Asuryan, Khaine and all the others apart from Isha, Kurnous and Loec.

Adamnan na brionha? I dont remeber him...maybe the nwew book will shed some light upon the WE gods..

[The Inspector]

ADAMNAN-NA-BRIONHA
The Lord of the Dance

Description: Adamnan-na-Brionha was born in the mists before the dawn of time, of a union between the forces of Sound and Motion. The Wardancers hold that he is The First Being, whose dance structures the Universe. He is also known as The First and The Lord of the Dance.

Adamnan-na-Brionha reflects two seemingly contradictory aspects of life - the joy of dance and the fury of righteous slaying. He appears as a mighty Elf, whose left hand side is slender and graceful, and whose right side shows the massive muscles of a mighty warrior. His face is also split between an expression of transcendent bliss and one of eye-popping fury.

The Wardancers believe that it is their fusion of war and dance that provides the earthly interpretation of their deity's manifestation.

Alignment: Neutral.

Symbol: Adamnan is symbolised by a flute held in a clenched fist. Divotees of The Lord of the Dance usually adopt one of the flamboyant Wardancer hairstyles, and, in addition, they must wear their god's symbol, either as a pendant or a pair of earrings. Their left ear holds a tiny flute, often worked in silver, while the right is home to a clenched fist, usually worked in gold.

Area of Worship: Adamnan-na-Brionha is worshipped by Wood Elves across the Old World, including all Wardancers.

Temples: The organised trappings of most religions are alien to these free-living Elves, and formal temples are not used - Adamnan-na-Brionha is to be worshipped in the heart, not tied to any one place.

Friends and Enemies: Followers of Adamnan are on good terms with those who worship the rest of the Wood Elf pantheon, and have a generally positive (if condescending) attitude towards the Old Faith and the cults of Taal and Rhya. They also get on reasonbly well with followers of Ranald.

Other Human cults are generally ignored, and the Dwarven pantheon is regarded with a certain amount of amusement.

Traditional racial enemies - especially goblinoids - are regarded with contempt and hatred, as a kind of vermin to be destroyed at every opportunity.

Holy Days: Specific dates hold little meaning for the followers of Adamnan-na-Brionha, and his cult has no specific holy days. It is events and actions which are important, hence dancing, ritual killing, training and the acceptance of new Wardancers are all held to be sacred acts when performed with the correct attitude of mind. For those versed in the higher mysteries of Adamnan, each action, however trivial, forms part of the Dance of Life and every experience is deemed to be as significant as every other.

Cult Requirements: The cult is open to all Elves. An Elf must complete the Wardancer career before proceeding to become an Initiate of Adamnan.

Strictures: The cult of Adamnan places few strictures on its members, they must keep themselves fit and supple at all times, and never act in a manner that threatens the good of the Elven race. However, certain things may particularly please or displease Adamnan; these are mainly related to attitude rather than actions. Entering combat with joy and righteous anger and fighting with athletic elegance are considered pleasing to the Lord of the Dance. Killing in a mean-spirited, cowardly or inelegant fashion attracts his displeasure.

Trials: A trial set by Adamnan will usually involve dealing with a creature or group of creatures that has failed to treat the Elven race with due respect - for example, goblinoids encroaching into the forest, Human woodcutters and charcoal-burners who have dared to invade the deeper parts of the forest and cut down the lornalim tree. The style in which a trial is undertaken is at least as important as its success.


Ahhhhh, hadnt posted any fluff in a while ....

[Hummerluver58]

I though Micheal Flately was the Lord of the Dance..... sorry couldn't resist

[Cthclain]

Well in truth wood elves still worship to a lesser extent the gods of the Asur, but only rarely and when needed most they have no true shrines or centers of worship, Kurnous and Isha have.

[Loreni_Serpenti]

Hmmm, so is there any more light shed on this issue in the new books fluff?

People with the new book please reply!

L_S

[Landuin]

Hello, I've got a copy of the new army book, and it mentions only Kurnous, Loec, and Isha. For the most part it just really emphasizes that Athel Loren is it's own entity and is feares, respected, and admired by the elves.