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 US Players in Latin America
Merengue
Posted: Feb 19 2007, 08:08 PM


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A thread for discussion of US players in Mexico like Edgar Castillo, Sonny Guadarrama and Samuel Ochoa and any other players located throughout Latin America.


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Martin
Posted: Feb 19 2007, 09:40 PM


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Edgar Castillo has played in 5 of Santos' 6 games this season in Mexico, starting 4 of them, Sonny Guadarrama has been used as a sub once for Santos, Samuel Ochoa is currently playing with Tecos' reserve team and there is another US born player in Mexico's first division, a centerback with San Luis from Orange, CA named Michael Orozco who previously played with Necaxa's youth teams. Orozco has started the last 2 games for San Luis.

For those who'd like to see these players in action, Santos' home games are shown on Azteca America while San Luis' are on Univision, Telefutura or Galavision.

I've seen Castillo play and he's a skinny but very quick left back. He's born in 1986 (in Las Cruces, NM) and I think it would be worth calling him into a U-23 camp when he won't have any conflicts with his club team. I haven't seen Orozco play yet but he too would be eligible for the U-23 team (also born in 1986). I'll try and catch some of his games soon on TV.

Of course I don't even know if Castillo and Orozco are interested in playing internationally but two players who start in the Mexican First Division are worth pursuing to see if there is interest.

There is a US player in Chile's first division too. His name is Chase Hilgenbrick and he's a centerback with a modest first division club called Nublense where he's a starter. Hilgenbrick is an ex Clemson Univ. player.

US born but cap tied to Ecuador is forward Gustavo Figueroa who is with Ecuador's current champions El Nacional and although Figueroa is typically a reserve with El Nacional he should see some action in this year's Copa Libertadores.

I'll keep my ear to the ground if there are other US players in Latin America's first divisions.


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Gunners
Posted: Feb 21 2007, 07:44 AM


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Martin,

How does Castillo compare to other young, American-born left backs such as Jonathan Bornstein, Heath Pearce, Jose Burciaga, and Jonathan Spector?

(And before someone posts on this topic, I understand that Spector is not a natural left back.)
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Martin
Posted: Feb 22 2007, 10:11 AM


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QUOTE (Gunners @ Feb 21 2007, 07:44 AM)
Martin,

How does Castillo compare to other young, American-born left backs such as Jonathan Bornstein, Heath Pearce, Jose Burciaga, and Jonathan Spector?

(And before someone posts on this topic, I understand that Spector is not a natural left back.)

Good question Gunners. From my viewings of Castillo I'd compare him to Jonathan Bornstein in a lot of ways. They are both skinny but very fast players who aren't bad on the ball. Bornstein is better going forward than Castillo right now and I haven't yet seen from Castillo the tenaciousness Bornstein showed in the Mexico game but then again that also was the first time I had seen that from Bornstein too! Overall I'd say Castillo is a little behind Bornstein now as he doesn't yet have as much first team playing experience but if he keeps developing he could be a considered a candidate for the US U-23 team.

By the way if you want to see Castillo play, his club Santos will be on Telefutura this Sunday at 2 pm PST playing against Club America. This should be a very good test for this young player against one of the top teams in Mexico.


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Pique
Posted: Feb 22 2007, 03:33 PM


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I think Castillo is a little green still but in general I'd agree with Martin's description of his play. I think he has some potential and incidentally his younger brother is coming up now through Santos' youth team. I don't know if Castillo is interested in playing for the US but I do think he'd be worth taking a look at for the U-23 team. The same applies with San Luis' centerback Michael Orozco.


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Martin
Posted: Feb 26 2007, 11:24 AM


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I watched America v Santos yesterday, a 2-0 win for America over a Santos team which is falling deeper and deeper into relegation worries. Edgar Castillo started surprisingly at left side midfield in this game as Santos tried to neutralize America's attack down the right with Castillo and a left back Ivan Estarda. With America going more down their left, Estrada was moved there and Castillo dropped more into a left wing back role in a 3-5-2. The more I watch Castillo the more he reminds me of Jonathan Bornstein. He isn't the attacking influence yet of Bornstein but that should come with more experience. He is pretty good on the ball though. Because they were trailing Castillo was taken out after an hour for a more attacking minded midfielder. And his US born teammate Sonny Guadarrama came on for the final 6 minutes or so of the game in midfield. Meanwhile Michael Orozco went 90 minutes again for San Luis in their 1-0 win over Jaguares.

All 3 of these players are eligible for both the US and Mexico and it will be interesting to see if the U-23 teams of either country try and pursue them. Right now Castillo and Orozco look like the more likely candidates for any U-23 team callup.


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Posted: Mar 1 2007, 11:01 AM


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I see on the TV listings than Orozco's San Luis will be playing on Univision this Sunday.
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rosarino
Posted: Mar 4 2007, 10:47 PM


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I caught the San Luis-Toluca game and I was pretty impressed with Michael Orozco. He started as a libero and played well. Composed on the ball, read the game well and had good anticipation and seemed to have pretty good quickness. He's a young player but showed a lot of maturity at the back for San Luis. He's a player to keep an eye out for whether he ends up playing for Mexico or the US.
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Posted: Mar 5 2007, 07:27 AM


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I saw most of the San Luis-Toluca game as well. I can't make comments on specific players, as my spanish is not up to catching everything the Univision announcers say, but San Luis's defense certainly looked good enough...

But then, so far this championship, Toluca have not been getting the results to go their way. Gallego took them to a championship after moving to Toluca from Newell's, and have been a threat every championship sense, but now seem to have lost their footing.

I haven't seen much news on the team. Do they have injury problems at the moment, or are they just not playing well?


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Martin
Posted: Mar 5 2007, 11:03 AM


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QUOTE (rosarino @ Mar 4 2007, 10:47 PM)
I caught the San Luis-Toluca game and I was pretty impressed with Michael Orozco.  He started as a libero and played well.  Composed on the ball, read the game well and had good anticipation and seemed to have pretty good quickness.  He's a young player but showed a lot of maturity at the back for San Luis.  He's a player to keep an eye out for whether he ends up playing for Mexico or the US.

I saw this game too and I pretty much agree with rosarino's analysis of Orozco. On Toluca's goal the defense was caught a little bit in a line but the goalscorer Vicente Sanchez really was Mascorro's man and Orozco tried to cover for his beaten teammate but couldn't get there in time. Still I too was pretty impressed with the composure Orozco showed for a player in his first season with the team and it speaks volumes for the respect his coach Raul Arias must have for him that he placed him in a position where he is directing the defense despite his young age and lack of professional experience.

dafyd, in the Mexican Torneo Apertura thread we are discussing Toluca's struggles, the majority opinion, which I agree with, is it seems they haven't found a goalscorer to replace the departed Bruno Marioni.


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Martin
Posted: Mar 19 2007, 08:19 AM


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I caught another game with Orozco and San Luis this past weekend, their 2-0 win over Cruz Azul, the team wth the best record in the league. With Gonzalez Tahuilan back in the lineup, Orozco wasn't playing as a libero but was at right side centerback and again he had a solid game and always seems to be well positioned and anticipates play well. The more I watch this young player, the more impressed I have become.

I didn't see Santos' game against Atlas but did see the highlights, Edgar Castillo was involved in one of Santos' goals as he broke into the penalty area and his hard, low cross was deflected into the net for an own goal.

Hilgenbrick has been playing lately as a left wing back for Nublense in the Chilean league.


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Pique
Posted: Apr 17 2007, 09:04 PM


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Since our last reports here on Edgar Castillo and Michael Orozco their fortunes have changed. Castillo has been playing very well at left back for Santos as they've been on a winning streak to save themselves from relegation. Meanwhile San Luis have changed their formation from 5 defenders to 4 and thus Orozco has been the player sent to the bench. As the team have also been winning lately, Orozco has not been able to get back into the starting lineup.


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Posted: Apr 20 2007, 11:16 AM


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Mauricio Acosta who is the backup goalkeeper for Independiente Santa Fe in Colombia and is the starter on Colombia's U-17 team which just qualified for the World Cup in that category is from Miami. Acosta was born in Colombia but grew up in Miami and played on youth teams there before signing with Santa Fe a year or two ago. I'm not certain if Acosta is a US citizen but as I said he has lived most of his life in Miami. Thought this would be of interest to some here.
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Posted: Jul 23 2007, 03:10 PM


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Tigre, a newly promoted team to Argentina's first division, recently signed goalie Delvin Countess to be it's backup. Apparently Countess last played in the Chilean 2nd division.
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Martin
Posted: Jul 23 2007, 08:01 PM


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QUOTE (rosarino @ Jul 23 2007, 03:10 PM)
Tigre, a newly promoted team to Argentina's first division, recently signed goalie Delvin Countess to be it's backup. Apparently Countess last played in the Chilean 2nd division.

Yes D.J. Countess last played with Osorno in Chile's 2nd Division. He was a sometime starter there and as rosarino said he's likely to be the #2 keeper with Tigre, a very modest club from the northern part of Buenos Aires. Nevertheless, I am glad to see another US player in Latin America.


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