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 Mexican National Team, Post World Cup Discussion
Sergio
Posted: Jul 2 2010, 09:30 PM


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After the disaster that was Sven Goran Eriksson, I do not see Mexico turning to a foreign coach now, Chepo de la Torre is a good candidate, probably the best young coach in the country but one who has already tasted success.

What I am curious about is whether Nery Castillo can ever refind his form? First he needs to find a club where he can play then we will see if he can return to El Tri. An inform Castillo would be a great addition to the other young players on Mexico and make this an even more dynamic team.


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Sergio
Posted: Jul 19 2010, 11:06 PM


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And some answers to the questions I posed. Nery Castillo is going to Chicago in the US to try and resurrect his career. This by the way is the goal which made Castillo famous, a superb effort in the 2007 Copa America vs Brazil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WspiJinjRlA&feature=related

And it looks like Chepo de la Torre will be Mexico's next coach but he won't take over until after the Apertura 2010 season ends in December.


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Posted: Jul 27 2010, 08:57 AM


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If as Sergio writes, Chepo de la Torre will become Mexico's new coach but that won't happen until his club duties with Toluca are complete in December, Mexico have thus named two interim coaches for some friendlies before then.

Cruz Azul coach Enrique Meza will lead Mexico against Spain next month and Efrain Flores will coach Mexico against Chile and Colombia in September.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=r...atammexicocoach
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Sergio
Posted: Jul 27 2010, 01:15 PM


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I am not completely sure Meza deserves a "homenaje," my mind is not working now and forgot how to say that in English but if de la Torre is not availale now I see no problem in having a temporary coach for these games. It may not even be de la Torre taking the job but there is no real need to rush the decision.


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ursus arctos
Posted: Jul 28 2010, 02:47 AM


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I'm not sure that there is a single English word for that concept. You could use "tribute", but that can mean a number of things.

Soccer America lists the ten biggest soccer crowds in the US so far this year:

90,526, Mexico v New Zealand
Pasadena, Calif. (March 3)

77,507, Mexico v Ecuador
East Rutherford, N.J. (May 7)

70,099, Mexico v Angola
Houston, Texas (May 13)

63,277 Mexico v Iceland
Charlotte, N.C. (March 24)

60,610 Mexico v Senegal
Chicago, Ill. (May 10)

55,407, USA v Turkey
Philadelphia, Pa. (May 29)

55,343, Kansas City Wizards vs. Man. United
Kansas City, Mo. (July 25)

45,631 Seattle Sounders vs. Celtic
Seattle, Wash. (July 18)

Philadelphia Union vs. Man. United
44,123 Philadelphia, Pa. (July 21)

40,122 Seattle Sounders vs. Boca Juniors
Seattle, Wash. (May 26)

Interesting, no?
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Sergio
Posted: Aug 2 2010, 04:49 PM


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Thank you ursus for the translation help, it is appreciated. I guess you ca now add the Manchester United-MLS All Star game to the list, a match where many fans came out to see Chicharito Hernandez' debut with Manchester United.

The three most popular soccer teams in the USA:

1. Mexico national team
2. Guadalajara
3. Club America

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Posted: Aug 5 2010, 11:56 AM


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Here is the team Mexico have selected to play Spain next week in Mexico City,

Goalkeepers: Guillermo Ochoa (America), Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul).

Defenders: Paul Aguilar (Pachuca), Rafael Marquez (Red Bull New York), Francisco Rodriguez (PSV Eindhoven), Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven), Hector Moreno (Az Alkmaar), Fausto Pinto (Cruz Azul), Leobardo Lopez (Pachuca).

Midfielders: Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul), Andres Guardado (La Coruna), Pablo Barrera (West Ham), Efrain Juarez (Celtic), Jonathan Dos Santos (Barcelona).

Forwards: Javier Hernandez (Manchester United), Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham), Carlos Vela (Arsenal), Enrique Esqueda (America), Elias Hernandez (Morelia).

Note no space for players like Blanco and Franco. No Guadalajara players were picked because this game conflicts with their first leg game in the Copa Libertadores Final.

Jonathan Dos Santos, Giovani's younger brother was picked, I am curious to see if he goes as remember his father, an ex player, had a fit when Jonathan was the last player cut by Javier Aguirre before the World Cup.


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Posted: Aug 6 2010, 10:52 PM


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Jonathan Dos santos will not be in this game, but not because he is refusing a call up, but with 7 Barca players on Spain's roster and barcelona playing Sevilla in the Spanish Super Cup, jonathan ahs a chance to earn more playing time with barcelona and asked to be excused from this national team game so he can play for his club. That wish was granted. Expect to see Jonathan in future call ups.

I was a little surprised by Elias Hernandez inclusion but he is yet anothe rpromising young player for Mexico. The future looks pretty good.


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Esas son las leyendas de futbol mexicano,
En todo Mexico hay un Chiva hermano!
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Pique
Posted: Aug 26 2010, 08:11 AM


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Efrain Flores, the ex Chivas coach who now works in the club's front office will coach Mexico for the two friendlies next month vs Ecuador and Colombia. here is the team he has named:

Porteros: Guillermo Ochoa (América) y Jesús Corona (Cruz Azul).

Defensas: Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven), Francisco Rodríguez (PSV Eindhoven), Héctor Moreno (AZ Alkmaar), Edgar Dueñas (Toluca), Jorge Torres Nilo (Tigres) y Leobardo López (Pachuca).

Centrocampistas: Andrés Guardado (Deportivo La Coruña), Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul), Rafael Márquez (Nueva York), Antonio Ríos (Toluca), Pablo Barrera (West Ham) y Efraín Juárez (Celtic FC).

Delanteros: Carlos Vela (Arsenal), Elías Hernández (Morelia), Enrique Esqueda (América), Javier Orozco (Cruz Azul), Javier Hernández (Manchester United) y Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham).

A couple of surprises there, notably debut selections for Toluca's Antonio Rios and Cruz Azul's Luis Javier Orozco. The latter coming off of a 4 goal came for his club in the CONCACAF club tournament.

Also selected after appearing against Spain a few weeks ago are Elias Hernandez and Enrique Esqueda. The rest of the squad are familiar faces from the World Cup plus a few players who were late cuts from the World Cup squad.


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En todo Mexico hay un Chiva hermano!
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Posted: Aug 26 2010, 11:07 PM


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I like this team which Efrain Flores selected. I am looking forward to seeing the young players together plus Chuletita Orozco who is on a great goalscoring streak now with Cruz Azul.

The FMF are not happy with Jonathan Dos Santos who through his agent told them he does not want to be called up now and wants to concentrate on his club career with Barcelona. The media in Mexico of course are eating up this controversy.


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Sergio
Posted: Sep 2 2010, 09:11 PM


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This is the lineup Efrain Flores is expected to use on saturday against Ecuador,

Hernandez
Vela, G. Dos Santos
Guardado, Marquez, Torrado, Barrera
Salcido, Maza Rodriguez, Moreno
Ochoa

I wish that was the lineup we had used in South Africa!


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Posted: Sep 4 2010, 07:49 PM


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On paper that lineup looks good but it did not function well on the field, Ecuador won 2-1 and overran Mexico especially in the first half. It all started early, 29 seconds to be exact when Christian Benitez beat several defenders and scored. Thanks to some good saves from Memo Ochoa Mexico stayed in the game and tied it when a Chicharito Hernandez cross was redirected by Ecuador's Luis Checa for an own goal. But Antonio Valencia set up Jaime Ayovi for a 2nd goal and that is how it ended.

Overall a pretty mediocre performance from Mexico, I thought the defense looked unorganized, the midfield did not function well and the chances which the attackers had, particularly Vela and a lesser extent Chicharito, were not put away.

The problem is with an interim manager, Mexico are in a kind of limbo and although they are playing good opponents, Ecuador tonight and Colombia on Tuesday, without a permanent coach, the team are not really building towards anything.

It was at least good to see a player each from Mexico's two best teams, Santos and Monterrey play in this match. The trouble was they were both playing for Ecuador! Monterrey's Walter Ayovi and Santos' Christian Benitez. Meanwhile Femexfut continue to ignore players from those clubs.


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Sergio
Posted: Sep 4 2010, 09:02 PM


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Impressive play from Ecuador, they lowered their pace in the 2nd part of the 2nd half as they amde some substitutes but before that they played with a lot of speed and skill. They kept Mexico off balance by outplaying them in midfield while El Tri had no answer for Benitez, both Ayovis and Valencia.

Mexico has not played with 3 defenders since Ricardo Lavolpe but they retirned to that system tonight and looked as expected very uncertain playing that way. Unless there is a drastic reversal in how Mexico plays on tuesday in Monterrey vs Colombia I think we can scratch Efrain Flores off the list of potential Mexico coaches when a full time coach is named this December or January.


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Posted: Sep 7 2010, 10:11 AM


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Ecuador really gave Mexico a lesson in speed and directness. Sergio is right, the three defender lineup did not work . For tonight vs Colombia, a team with a similar style to Ecuador's but maybe not quite as direct in their play, the same lineup is expected to be used with one exception, Efrain Juarez will come in for Pablo Barrera and that should give more defensive balance to the team. My question is whether Juarez will play as a carrilero (wingback) or drop back and play as a 4th defender playing as a right back.

There are stories going through the Mexican press that although Efrain Flores likely will not become Argentina's full time coach he will be on Chepo de la Torre's coaching staff IF Chepo gets the job as Mexico's coach. Flores was one of de la Torre's mentors as he was learning the coaching business at Chivas. So if this is true then this week's matches are not as worthless as some were saying as it is the beginning of the process under which Flores and de la Torre will use as El Tri's coaching team.


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Posted: Sep 22 2010, 03:54 AM


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Vela and Juarez get six month bans for partying hardily.

One of the unappreciated dangers of having members of El Tri joining British clubs . . .
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