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 Adu career at a stagnant point, Adu axed from Belenenses
robdog
  Posted: Dec 30 2009, 06:32 PM


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Well, the next best thing since slice Bread, Freddy Adu has been axed from Belenenses. He didn't impress and was rotting on the relegation zone side's bench. Adu has been sent back to Benfica. Sad for him. Wonder how much longer he will be a Yank Abroad. Looks like he might have some company as Eddie Johnson is on the trading block as well. Maybe these two can ask their clubs for time w/ the USNMT in Jan. It's better than reserve matches ohmy.gif


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SuperEagle
Posted: Dec 30 2009, 10:28 PM


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You make an interesting point but at this point in time is Bob Bradley even interested in either Freddy Adu or Eddie Johnson?
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vince stravino
Posted: Dec 31 2009, 09:15 AM


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Both are still kids. Talented and need to be on the pitch somewhere. For active players, Eddie Johnson has to be close to the Top Five in career Natl team goals scored.

Adu read the press clippings a bit too closely. He needs to realize that the paychecks are great (and good for him!), but the lack of playing time has allowed others in his age group to surpass him in value.

Both are getting bad advice. Neither are as good as they probably felt they were, but neither are they as bad as their current situations suggest.
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robdog
  Posted: Dec 31 2009, 10:02 AM


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QUOTE (vince stravino @ Dec 31 2009, 09:15 AM)
For active players, Eddie Johnson has to be close to the Top Five in career Natl team goals scored.

As you were typing this, it was announced that EJ will be going to Greek side Aris Thessaloniki Football Club for the rest of the season on loan.


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Loco4LosChe
Posted: Dec 31 2009, 11:07 AM


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QUOTE (vince stravino @ Dec 31 2009, 12:15 PM)
Both are still kids.

I'll give you Adu, he is 20. But EJ is 25, turning 26 in March.
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rosarino
Posted: Dec 31 2009, 11:34 AM


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QUOTE (robdog @ Dec 31 2009, 10:02 AM)
QUOTE (vince stravino @ Dec 31 2009, 09:15 AM)
For active players, Eddie Johnson has to be close to the Top Five in career Natl team goals scored.

As you were typing this, it was announced that EJ will be going to Greek side Aris Thessaloniki Football Club. for the rest of the season on loan.

That is an interesting move. I know Sebastian Abreu was there and is planning on leaving as he wants to be in closer view of Uruguay's head coach with the World Cup approaching. But there are some pretty good players on that Aris team, Leandro Gracian, Cristian Nasuti, Alejandro Lembo, Ronaldo Guiaro. Could be a good move for Johnson. As Vince writes, he needs playing time.

As does Adu of course. The talent is there, he needs the concentration and effort if he is to achieve success.
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robdog
  Posted: Dec 31 2009, 12:14 PM


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QUOTE (rosarino @ Dec 31 2009, 11:34 AM)
That is an interesting move. I know Sebastian Abreu was there and is planning on leaving as he wants to be in closer view of Uruguay's head coach with the World Cup approaching. But there are some pretty good players on that Aris team, Leandro Gracian, Cristian Nasuti, Alejandro Lembo, Ronaldo Guiaro. Could be a good move for Johnson.

Yeah I read somethings about this move & it appears that EJ got a good word put in by an ex-team mate from Cardiff. Also, I gather that El Loco Abreu didn't settle in at Aris and that Real Betis might be going after Koke. Also the fact that Aris has only scored 15 goals & given up 13. Currently in the Greek SuperLiga, Aris right outside a European Playoff spot. Should be interesting & I hope EJ can get it together, but he will start from the bench for cover.


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Sammy Maudlin
Posted: Dec 31 2009, 01:20 PM


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As Loco writes Johnson is not a kid anymore, turning 26 in March he should be approaching the prime years of his career. He may not be the most technically gifted forward but he used to be a forward who would get in good scoring position and one who use dhis speed to create probelms for the opposition defensively. But he's lost his confidence and without that he ineffective. For his sake hopefully he regains that at Aris. he'll need to do that quickly if he is to get abck into the national team picture.

Actually that ame advice works for Adu too. Although younger, he too needs to regain that confidence on the field which will allow him to get minutes.
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Martin
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QUOTE (Sammy Maudlin @ Dec 31 2009, 01:20 PM)
As Loco writes Johnson is not a kid anymore, turning 26 in March he should be approaching the prime years of his career. He may not be the most technically gifted forward but he used to be a forward who would get in good scoring position and one who use dhis speed to create probelms for the opposition defensively. But he's lost his confidence and without that he ineffective. For his sake hopefully he regains that at Aris. he'll need to do that quickly if he is to get abck into the national team picture.

Actually that ame advice works for Adu too. Although younger, he too needs to regain that confidence on the field which will allow him to get minutes.

I think this is a valid point but it is not just confidence but also effort and concentration which both Johnson and Adu need to assert if they are to achieve success.

I still think Adu is the most technically gifted player the US has ever produced. But he needs to follow the example of players like Lionel Messi, Andres Iniesta and Kaka three extremely technical players who also run their socks off on the field. An active Adu who looks for the ball and is active once he receives it can become an effective player for both club and country.


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raconteur
Posted: Jan 3 2010, 10:05 AM


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Adu is only 20 so it is far too early to write him off as a bust, although that did not stop the always bombastic goal.com from listing him as one of the decades biggest flops. But I agree with the comments made here that Adu needs to stop reading his press clippings from when he was 14/15, you would think that his recent struggles would have caused him to do just that, and he does need to work harder on the field. The talent is there, the confidence and effort needs to follow if he is to fulfill his potential and not become the 2nd coming of Nii Odartey Lamptey.
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QUOTE (Martin @ Jan 3 2010, 02:21 AM)
I think this is a valid point but it is not just confidence but also effort and concentration which both Johnson and Adu need to assert if they are to achieve success.

I still think Adu is the most technically gifted player the US has ever produced. But he needs to follow the example of players like Lionel Messi, Andres Iniesta and Kaka three extremely technical players who also run their socks off on the field. An active Adu who looks for the ball and is active once he receives it can become an effective player for both club and country.

Problem with a lack of confidence is that it directly effects one's effort and concentration on the field. While I will agree that this is the problem with Eddie Johnson, I don't see it that way with Adu. Freddie, if anything, has a problem with overconfidence, and has sense he was first signed to play for DC United.

The question on both players is how to harness their best qualities, and mask their weaknesses. That will take the right coach who's willing to take the time and effort to bring it out of them.


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Posted: Jan 3 2010, 08:39 PM


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I don't mean to answer for others but I too have noticed that when I have seen him play in the past few years Adu does seem without much confidence. What I think that means dafyd is while he may be overconfident in his own ability, on the field he is showing a lack of confidence so that when he gets the ball he quickly passes it off rather than looking to make an incisive pass.

Adu has shown at the youth level that he can be a very good playmaker, mainly playing as a withdrawn forward.. Now we all know youth level achievements mean diddly squat as a senior level professional but any player with Adu's ability is one which you would think could make the transition to the next level. At 20 years of age he should still have suitors based on his inate ability but he does have to start producing soon if he is to have a good professional career.
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Posted: Jan 4 2010, 11:35 AM


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Adu has shown at the youth level that he can be a very good playmaker, mainly playing as a withdrawn forward.. Now we all know youth level achievements mean diddly squat as a senior level professional but any player with Adu's ability is one which you would think could make the transition to the next level. At 20 years of age he should still have suitors based on his inate ability but he does have to start producing soon if he is to have a good professional career.

That is why Adu's advisors have to give him good advice on where to head to next rather than simply looking to make a fast buck by placing him with any club. It seems Benfica are not interested in him, at least now, so it is going to be very important for him to find the right place with his next move. He really should not worry about trying to secure a 2010 World Cup place, he needs to concentrate on finding a club where he can get an opportunity to play regularly and then show that club with results why he should continue to play.
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robdog
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Funny that we mentioned EJ in this thread, now Adu is considering to go to join EJ @ Aris Thessaloniki ohmy.gif


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Posted: Jan 5 2010, 03:46 PM


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QUOTE (robdog @ Jan 5 2010, 02:52 PM)
Funny that we mentioned EJ in this thread, now Adu is considering to go to join EJ @ Aris Thessaloniki ohmy.gif

Here is another article which is more recent and says Adu's arrival at Aris Salonika is imminent but not yet official.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...oot=mls&cc=5901

And here are some comments in the linked article from Frank Klopas, a former Greek league player,

"It's a physical league, but I think Eddie Johnson has the pace and he's going to do well," said Chicago Fire technical director Frank Klopas, a veteran of the Greek league. "Freddy fits in well also. It's a good team and an exciting place to play, and if they stay focused, I think they can do well there.

"It won't be easy; there's a lot of pressure to perform there, but they have been in big leagues, so if they can handle that pressure, I think they can do well."


I did not know this but Hector Cuper, the ex Valencia and Inter coach is now the coach at Aris so Johnson, and Adu if he does go there, will be coached by an experienced man. I hope the move[s] pay off for them both and they can each live up to their considerable potential.

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