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Roosevelt
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 05:28 AM


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There was a thread discussing this aspect of Yanks Abroad at the old sagexile MB, one of the names discussed there (and someone, IIRC, Martin knows/knew) Afshin Ghotbi, seems to be finding great success in the country of his birth and there's some speculation he might be line for the Iran NT manager position.

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Meet the American who could lead Iran

After an impressive start in charge of Tehran's biggest club, American citizen Afshin Ghotbi may soon be invited to manage his native country.
John DuerdenOctober 31, 2007 1:13 PM

It didn't make international news headlines in August when an American citizen was greeted by thousands of people at Tehran airport and carried out of the terminal on the shoulders of locals but that's what happened to Afshin Ghotbi.

The 43 year-old had been unsure about what sort of welcome he'd receive as he returned to his homeland for the first time in 30 years to become the manager of Tehran giants Persepolis. He needn't have worried. Hordes of fans, and his mother, who he hadn't seen since he left the country in 1977 to settle in California, were waiting with flags, tears and open arms. If Ghotbi had forgotten how much football meant to the people of Iran, he was quickly reminded.

With most of the news tightly controlled by the government, the Tehran press, which includes no less than 15 independent sport dailies, goes to town on the beautiful game and the return of Ghotbi was headline news.

Despite his relatively young age, the articulate Iranian-American has seen action at three World Cups. Though never a player, he began his coaching career at UCLA and from there earned a place on USA's coaching staff. He was on the American bench when his adopted country lost to Iran in Lyon in 1998. His talents were then spotted by Guus Hiddink and he headed to Korea in 2001 as part of the Dutchman's staff. After the glorious summer of 2002, Ghotbi returned to Seoul with Dick Advocaat for the 2006 tournament and Pim Verbeek for the Asian Cup a year later.

That was when he was asked to restore the glory days to Persepolis. Touted as 'the people's club' of Tehran, Persepolis is one of the best supported teams in Asia and, as you'd expect from a club whose nickname is Pirouzi (Victory), is a pressure-cooker for managers - as Arie Haan and Mustafa Denizli found out during recent short spells in charge. Three other managers have come and gone since the last of seven titles came in 2002.

Though he's had no transfer funds, Ghotbi has got off to a near-perfect start. Captained by former Charlton player Karim Bagheri, the team have amassed twenty-five points from their opening 11 games and sit on top of the table for the first time in five years. The fans are delighted - as is their new hero: "We've had between 65,000 and 90,000 fans at all our home games and all our away matches have been sold out," Ghotbi told Guardian Unlimited. "Persepolis is the people's team with a fantastic history and following all over the world." The high point so far was last week's clash with Esteghlal of Ahvaz, the second- best-supported team in the country. In front of a crowd of 70,000 (all men, women still being barred from attending matches), Persepolis were being held 2-2 and, despite having had a player sent off, Ghotbi threw on an attacker for a defender and was rewarded with a stunning last-minute winner.

Such boldness is one reason why Ghotbi is already being talked about as the next manager of an underachieving national team. Iran is home to some of the continent's most talented players but even stars such as Ali Karimi, Mehdi Mahdavikia, Vahid Hashemian, Andranik Teymourian and Javad Nekounam failed to collect more than a single point in Germany or progress past the quarter-finals of the 2007 Asian Cup. Currently, Iran don't have a manager - Amir Ghaleneoi's contract was not renewed after the Asian Cup and the decision to replace him won't be taken until mid-November, after the elections to find a new chief of the Iranian Football Federation election.

Ghotbi seems a perfect choice but in Iran, it is never that simple. In a nation where all but two top-flight clubs are financed by a state industry, football and politics are never far apart. Governmental interference is why Fifa temporarily suspended Iran from all international competitions last November. Earlier that month, Ghotbi was denied an entrance visa when Korea played an Asian Cup qualifier in Tehran. It was big news at the time but he is diplomatic about the incident now. "People born in Iran cannot enter and exit Iran without an Iranian passport, and I did not have one back in November."

He has a passport now and no regrets: "Much of the western media's views about Iran are inaccurate. Iranian people are very proud of their history and heritage, and would love to show the world their rich culture and beautiful country. Iran is full of life, passion and energy."

Persepolis is owned by the state-run Physical Education Organisation and headed by a high-ranking government official who was instrumental in Ghotbi's appointment - but not everyone has been enthused by the thought of an exile-turned-American citizen returning on a lucrative contract. If his results dip, a campaign against him won't be slow in coming. For the moment, however, the only criticism he's openly faced has, you suspect, been spawned by personal grievances: Persepolis record goalscorer Farhoud Pious has declared that Ghotbi doesn't understand the tradition and psychology of Iranian football - though that's probably a reference to the Persepolis decision not to give the job to an ex-player .. such as Pious; and Esteghal manager Nasser Hezaji has panned his methods as being "20 years out of date", but didn't explain why, in that case, Ghotbi's team are nine points ahead of his in the table.

Ghotbi, whose matchday suit-wearing habits are starting to spread to other managers in the league, shrugs off the criticism: "The old guard in football will always resist change. Bringing a new way of thinking in training, playing organisation, and managing a team in any part of the world will always attract critics. We are all products of our experiences, and I have had a much different background and football education then most Asian coaches. I brought confidence, organisation, and discipline to Persepolis. The goal is to bring trophies."

Even before he brings trophies, however, he may get a crack at the 2010 World Cup, for which qualification begins in February.


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Martin
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 09:41 AM


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Thanks for the article Roosevelt, yes I am the one who knew Afshin Ghotbi in college and we later used to play against one another in various leagues in Los Angeles. It is good to see he is continuing his coaching career and it is a fascinating story about how his job path has taken him back to the country of his birth.
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shelsoccer
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 10:41 AM


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Wasn't this guy's entre to the US national team as something of a computer/stats geek?
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Martin
Posted: Nov 8 2007, 02:08 PM


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QUOTE (shelsoccer @ Nov 1 2007, 10:41 AM)
Wasn't this guy's entre to the US national team as something of a computer/stats geek?

If I recall Ghotbi created a computer program to track a player(s) movement during a game and that is what attracted Guus Hiddink's interest in him and he eventually brought Ghotbi in to perform that function for South Korea in the 2002 World Cup.

Now that I think of it, however, Ghotbi may have first done that for Steve Sampson when SS was leading the US team. Ghotbi later worked as Sampson's assistant with the Galaxy before heading back to Korea to work on Dick Advocaat's staff for Korea's runup and participation in World Cup 2006.
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Martin
Posted: Nov 16 2007, 06:49 PM


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I was watching the news on BBC World tonight and there was a story about Ghotbi coaching in Iran. He's definitely making headlines now! He's taken a very interesting career path and his is a name to follow in the coaching world. It also doesn't hurt to have coaches like Hiddink and Advocaat advocating your name.

By the way speaking of US coaches overseas, Octavio Zambrano is still in Moldova.
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Posted: Nov 19 2007, 12:24 AM


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Jason Higgins (ex-SMU asst coach) at Northern Mariana Islands biggrin.gif .
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Merengue
Posted: Jan 30 2008, 02:49 PM


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Jurgen Klinsmann has just hired Martin Vasquez to be his assistant at Bayern Munich!

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-...uters&type=lgns

Klinsmann last number 2, Joachim Low is now Germany's national team coach. This is a huge move for Vasquez and makes him along with Bob Bradley the highest profile US coach.
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Yogi
Posted: Jan 30 2008, 07:05 PM


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QUOTE (Merengue @ Jan 30 2008, 02:49 PM)
Jurgen Klinsmann has just hired Martin Vasquez to be his assistant at Bayern Munich!

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-...uters&type=lgns

Klinsmann last number 2, Joachim Low is now Germany's national team coach. This is a huge move for Vasquez and makes him along with Bob Bradley the highest profile US coach.

This is big news and a great opportunity for Vasquez. Merengue is right Vasquez has just moved under the microscope which is Bayern Munich. If he does well there, this guy will be almost able to name his next coaching job.
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Posted: Feb 2 2008, 08:44 AM


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I know Juan Carlos Osorio was an assistant at Manchester City for awhile but I don't recall if he ever was the number 2 guy there and it definitely wasn't with as big of a club as Bayern Munich. Dan Gaspar was for a period of time the goalkeeping coach with Benfica but again that toow asn't as high a profile job as Vasquez will have with Bayern. I agree with the comments about how big a move this is and it does make Vasquez one of, if not the highest profiled coaches in the US and may be what opens up the gates for other US coaches to move abroad.
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Posted: Feb 11 2008, 10:12 PM


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I don't think Osorio ever was the number 2 guy at Man City. But Vasquez will be the right hand man for Klinsmann at Bayern. This is a great opportunity for him and he'll now have the chance to make a name for himself internationally. Martin Vasquez is a US coach to keep an eye out for in the future. Maybe the first US coach to really make a splash internationally.
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shelsoccer
Posted: Feb 29 2008, 08:47 AM


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Well, here's one we over-looked -- Brent Goulet is in his fourth season as manager of Elversberg in the German third division (see Jeff Carlisle column at espn soccer net).

A few of us old farts will remember Goulet as something of a phenom in the late '80s. He came out of tiny Warner Pacific College in Oregon, received several caps and scored some goals under Gansler, who nevertheless left him off the 1990 WC team somewhat controversally.

He played some indoor, then had stints in England with Bournemouth and Crewe before embarking on a long career (until 2000) in the lower divisions of German football. I remember snipets of his playing career in Germany, where he was a productive scorer albeit a lower levels. And, I have a vague recollection that he stayed in Germany after his playing days. But, I don't recall him getting into coaching, certainly not a coach who has lasted 3+ seasons at one club.

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Posted: Feb 29 2008, 11:20 AM


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Interesting info thanks for providing it to us. Goulet wouldn't be the only player who found a comfortable life in the foreign country where he played for many years. It is good though to see ex American players taking the move to become a coach even in a foreign country. Although Goulet has lived in Germany for so long now that it likely isn't that foreign to him anymore!

Speaking of German-American connections, anybody know if Thomas Dooley is still involved with the sport after he retired? He was always one of my favorite players to watch with the US.
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shelsoccer
Posted: Feb 29 2008, 11:58 AM


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I'm pretty sure Dooley is living in SoCal. I don't know if he's doing any coaching, but I saw something recently where he was promoting a competitive version of head tennis, a venture I believe he's behind. Maybe not strictly head tennis, but some version of 3v3 played on a court.
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shelsoccer
Posted: Mar 3 2008, 01:32 PM


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Read this morning (I think in a Soccer America newsletter) that Ghotbi looks to have been passed over for the Iranian national team job in favor of Ali Daei.
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Martin
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I read a wire service article which said the Iranian Sports Ministry pressured the Iranian FA not to name Ghotbi the national team coach. Apparently the FA were in favor of him, the Sports Ministry in favor of Ali Daei, Iran's recently retired all time leader in international appearances and goals. So Daei is the new national team coach. Ghotbi remains however the coach at Persepolis, one of the country's two biggest clubs.
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