Title: Chivas USA
Pique - April 21, 2007 06:09 AM (GMT)
I thought I'd start a separate thread for Chivas USA, the team which until Beckham's arrival in LA has led MLS in sponsorship money brought in. This is the team's ideal starting lineup in the current season: Guzan- Zotinca, Vaughn, Suarez, Bornstein- Marsch, Kljesten, Mendoza-Guevara- Galindo, Razov.
It is similar to last season's team except Guevara plays in place of Loco Garcia and Galindo is there instead of Palencia. The other change is Zotinca, the Romanian at right back where he's steadied the defense and caused Vaughn to move to centerback. Suarez is a year older and slower but Guzan, Bornstein and Kljesten have another year of play and their US national team experiences has helped them develop. Maykel Galindo, the Cuban defector isn't a bad player but he's not Palencia and this is where Chivas USA needs to find someone to help take the goalscoring load off of Razov.
I think overall Chivas USA are a little better than they were last season but they will need to find an alternative goalscorer to Razov. How successful they are in finding that player will determine the team's achievements in 2007.
Pique - April 23, 2007 06:55 AM (GMT)
Chivas were successful this week in finding other goalscorers besides Razov. Galindo got their first goal (and his first MLS score) after 30 seconds as Salt Lake's defense fell asleep and Rimando tried to come out when Galindo was way off to an angle away from goal. The Cuban easily dribbled the goalie and scored. He then got his 2nd after another poor play by Salt Lake's Stewart, one of the poorest defenders I've sene in MLS, Razov got a 3rd on a nice header from Mendoza's cross and late in the game Taylor scored as Chivas beat Salt Lake 4-0. To be honest, the visitors from Utah were so bad, and so disorganized defensively Chiavs could easily have scored 7-8 goals but they missed several breakaways and/or easy attempts.
Salt Lake are a good choice as worst team in the league and Freddy Adu looks just like another player out there and not the future superstar some were projecting him to be.
Johnbuildr - April 23, 2007 10:25 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Pique @ Apr 22 2007, 10:55 PM)|
Salt Lake are a good choice as worst team in the league and Freddy Adu looks just like another player out there and not the future superstar some were projecting him to be.
Sad that. Kind of reminds me of some of the hot shot American football running backs drafted out of college to cellar dwelling pro teams. With hardly any good personnel around someone in an 11 man team sport, it is very hard to shine no matter how good the talent of the individual. Not that Adu has ever been a standout in the MLS.
Martin - April 24, 2007 05:30 AM (GMT)
It won't be easy for Adu to shine in Salt Lake. That is a bad team and tactically they seem lost. As Pique said, Chivas had so many breakaways in this match that they could easily have doubled the 4 goals they ended up scoring. Unfortunately for Adu he is being relied upon to do so much for such a poor team at such a young age but it is asking a lot for any 17 year old to take a leading role on a professional club.
Galindo's goals will certainly help his confidence but his speed and dribbling ability look like they have the potential for forming a pretty good partnership with Razov. Zotinca is also a good offseason move as he has really helped stabilize the defense.
Pique - April 29, 2007 07:58 AM (GMT)
Another frustrating Chivas' loss to the Galaxy, 3-1. They killed us on the counter and Joe Cannon made some super saves. Typical Chivas USA game, pass the ball well, press the opponents in midfield but make some errors at the back and lose concentration and give up silly goals.
Pique - May 3, 2007 07:30 AM (GMT)
Apparently Amado Guevara, after disagreements with head coach Preki, has been traded to Toronto. Not sure what Chivas USA are getting in return but this opens up a spot for the club to sign a big time offensive star. Meanwhile Guevara gets to go to play for one of his ex coaches from New York.
Pique - May 8, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
Guevara ended up turning down the trade to Toronto and is now off Chivas' team. He's returned home to Honduras for now but can't play until his contract situation is straightened out. Chivas may still try and trade him within MLS but his value has just dropped through the bottom.
The team did pick up Pablo Nagamura from Toronto and he'll help the thin bench Chivas has, especially in midfield. Kljesten's suspension finally ends and his presence was missed as the team lost both games while he was out. Galindo scored a nice individual goal against DC but the rest of the team, especially Razov took the game off. Chivas has potential but it is a team who can't play consistently and they get distracted too easily defensively and let in easy goals.
Martin - May 17, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
It seems like Guevara will play next season with Motagua in his native Honduras. Sounds like a win-win situation. Chivas USA get rid of a player who wasn't fitting in and had trouble with the coach and they can now look for a replacement attacking midfielder while Guavara gets to play back home.
Roosevelt - May 18, 2007 03:46 PM (GMT)
You think, Martin? Even though I'm supportive of Bradley as the NT manager, IMHO trading one of just 13 DP slots for what amounts to, is it 400K in cap space?, will hurt this team for the next few years. Theyre in the only MLS market with two teams and the Gals will almost certainly have two DPs next season. I'm not sure how much rival star power that kind of money can bring in.
OTOH, it doesn't seem that a league-wide consensus has emerged on the value of a DP slot, I believe Houston was offered financial help by AEG to seek a DP player and the Dynamo declined, but maybe better suited to a thread for general discussion of the DP rule...
Merengue - May 18, 2007 06:30 PM (GMT)
What are the rules now in MLS about these "Designated Players?" I know a team can have up to two per team, with one of them being a player who was previously making more than the "maximum" salary, i.e players like Donovan, Adu, Palencia (last season), Johnson, etc. And the other slot is a guy like Beckham, Barros Schelotto or Blanco. But what about the old "allocated" player rule. Has that disappeared now? So for instance could Chivas USA replace Guevara, who was an allocated player when he came into the league with another similar player?
Pique - May 27, 2007 06:01 PM (GMT)
Ramon Ramirez officially retired but I think we all knew after the injury he suffered last year in preseason which kept him out all year long his career was pretty much over. An excellent player and a true Chivas hero over the years. Too bad MLS saw him far from his best. I'll always remember Ramon running up the left side of Guadalajara's midfield.
I have no idea what the rules are in MLS for designated players, etc. I think they make it up as they go along! :lol:
Nice win for Chivas USA last night 2-0 over a pretty good Dallas team. Galindo is really playing well now and causes trouble for every defense with his speed, dribbling ability and he's showing a good nose for goal. Last night's was a 30 meter strike against Dario Sala. And I am glad the Herbalife Galaxy had no need for Shavar Thomas as I think he is starting to form a good defensive partnership with Claudio Suarez and gives the team a good combo of experience and youthful speed in the middle of the defense. With an attacking midfielder to replace Guevara, I think Chivas have the makings of a pretty good team so long as they maintain their defensive concentration.
Pique - June 25, 2007 08:08 PM (GMT)
All our attention has been on Gold Cup and Copa America and I haven't even watched any recent Chivas USA games but the team had Guatemalan defensive midfielder Freddy Thompson on trial and it looks like he'll soon be signed by the club. Thompson would have been on Guatemala's Gold Cup team but was injured.
Martin - July 13, 2007 07:41 AM (GMT)
While their city rivals are unveiling their newest signing, some English guy with a silly haircut, Chivas USA have brought in for a trial the two Cubans who defected during the Gold Cup, forward Lester More and midfielder Osvaldo Alonzo. It'll be interesting to see if they can follow in Maykel Galindo's footsteps. Galindo has been one of the real revelations of the current MLS season. More didn't play much in this Gold Cup but previously was Cuba's chief offensive threat while Alonzo really impressed me in the two games I saw him play last month for Cuba.
Pique - August 21, 2007 02:54 PM (GMT)
I don't think Chivas have made a final decision on the two Cubans but they did pick up Ramon Nunez from Dallas and he came on as a sub last weekend and set up Chivas' 2nd goal in their 2-0 win over Toronto. The Canadian team is about to set a MLS record for most scoreless minutes and they obviously had not scouted Chivas before because they kept trying to push their defensive line forward which made it easy for Chiavs to pass the ball over the top and take advantage of Galindo's speed. That is how he scored the game's opening goal. I don't know who Toronto's coach is but he isn't too bright.
Radio - August 24, 2007 10:38 AM (GMT)
Merengue - August 25, 2007 08:01 AM (GMT)
Well radio your paisano Galindo destroyed the Galaxy on Thursday night. 2 goals in Chivas' 3-0 win. One was a gift from the defense but the 2nd was a beautiful bit of collective play, Kljesten opens it up for Mendoza who passes it to Galindo who calmly shot it past LA's keeper. Then late in the game another nice counter and a pass to Mendoza for an easy goal.
Maykel Galindo has been the real surprise of this MLS season and Chivas are one of the better passing teams in the league.
Pique - August 26, 2007 07:26 PM (GMT)
That was a very nice win the other night for Chivas USA. Galindo has been great this season and good for that as Razov is startying to show his age. But the combination passing by Chivas just opened the Galaxy defense up. You can't change half or more of your team during the season and expect to do well but that is what the Galaxy did and they are paying the price for it, Beckham's presence or not.
jtgulls - August 29, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
I raised the question as to whether Ramon Morales might move to ChivasUSA for the 2008 MLS season given his age and ChivasUSA's desire to bring an impact player to their squad next season.
|QUOTE (Martin @ Aug 29 2007, 10:46 AM)|
| Ramon Morales to Chivas USA? Hmm, well I guess that is possible next season but it may also depend on whether Chivas have a ready made replacement for him. Plus Morales plays where one of Chivas USA's brightest stars Panchito Mendoza does on the left side of midfield so I am not certain if he'd fill an actual need the Chiavs USA team has. But I wouldn't be surprised to see some big name Mexican player come into the Chivas USA team next year, whether or not that'll be Morales remains to be seen.|
Martin, I was thinking that perhaps Morales might be a replacement for Jonathan Bornstein on the back line if Bornstein should get a contract in Europe - or, if they end up switching Bornstein over to the right side as they've done when injuries dictated.
Just a thought.
Pique - September 4, 2007 04:07 AM (GMT)
Interesting question jtgulls. I had not heard about Morales being a potential Chivas USA player before but I guess it is a possibility as Morales is getting up in years, he's 31, going to be 32 next month and with Jorge Vergara in charge of Chivas you never know if he'll suddenly decide to go with a complete youth movement at Chivas de Guadalajara. But Martin makes a good point that with Panchito Mendoza already with the US version of the Rebano Sagrado there isn't an immediate need for Morales there. Morales is a much better player than Mendoza of course but Mendoza is one of the team's most promising young players, along with Bornstein, Guzan and Vaughn, so that I don't see the need to bring in Ramoncito Morales to Chivas USA. Plus there also is the question of whether Morales would want to leave Mexico as he is a member of the national team and wants to be within Hugo Sanchez' attention which he can do much better in Mexico than in the US.
If I am not mistaken this will be Claudio Suarez' last season before retiring, that is where Chivas USA will need to bring in a quality player. Central defense and a creative midfielder are the clubs needs for next season. To help attendance I do think they need to bring in a player who has that "wow" factor and an attacking midfielder would be a good place to start. Should be a fascinating offseason at the club.
But for now there is the current season to concentrate on but I keep wondering who makes the bizarre MLS schedule? Chivas USA hardly played in August. Why does the league not reduce it's schedule during the Gold Cup and Copa America but in August Chivas went 18 days without playing a game? That makes little sense.
Pique - September 8, 2007 06:00 AM (GMT)
Strange game the other night as Chivas USA came from 0-2 down to tie DC United 2-2 at the Home Depot Center. Emilio scored both DC goals, one on a nice shot the other on a rebound that Guzan gave up on a Jaime Moreno shot. Then Chivas scored on one of the poorest goalkeeper clearances you'll ever see. A long ball was hit forward towards Razov but way over his head, he and Greg Vanney of DC are chasing the ball but DC's keeper Troy Perkins, he who thankfully dropped an easy shot for Chivas de Guadalajara's game winning goal in the CONCACAF semifinals, came out of his penalty area to clear it away and with the whole field to aim for he hits it directly into Razov's backside as he was simply trying to protect himself from getting hit, and the ball rebounds off Razov and slowly rolls into the net!
Back in 1997 in World Cup qualifying when Kasey Keller cleared one off of Carlos Hermosillo's forehead and into the net, Hermosillo at least was trying to pressure Keller into a mistake. But in this case Razov was just trying to get out of the way and Perkins hit the ball right off of him and into the net!
Even Chivas' 2nd goal by Lawson Vaughn was a deflection although that at least was the result of nice buildup as Kljestan made a nice individual move to pass it to Vaughn. One of the quietest games I've seen from Galindo and he was eventually subbed out for the even more invisible Merlin. Nunez also came on for Razov and did very poorly, giving the ball away and not making good runs. All in all I consider Chivas fortunate to have earned a tie in that game but those are the type of games which in the team's previous years would have gotten away from them. This year's team has the spirit to fight back.
Roosevelt - September 8, 2007 12:11 PM (GMT)
I only watched the first half of that one (what ended up being an 11pm EDT start proved a bit too much---how does anyone one the east coast ever get to work on time the next day?) and that first goal for Chivas was truly a bizarre one. (And then when Chivas almost equalized a few minutes later when Boswell hit a rocket of a clearence off the post---I'm thinking "coming back from 0-2 with a butt-shot and an own-goal, that'd have been one for the 'decpetive 2-0' thread!"). All kidding aside, I agree, Chivas has a grit this season that I haven't seen before and will be a tough, tough opponent in the post-season.
A few questions for you Pique: during the telecast the announcers said Chivas had fired their General Manager (for the poor attendance at HDC), any word on a replacement? Sacha Kljestan---how much US Nats potential do you think he has? I've seen him a few times this year and generally like what I've seen, but I'm not much of a talent evaluator. Last one, about Guzan. He's quite young, but he sure seems (again, limited viewings by me) to have trouble holding onto the ball at times. How happy are you with him as a medium/long term solution?
Thanks and good luck to you guys during the stretch run.
garbaggio - September 8, 2007 07:55 PM (GMT)
Yeah, Perkins has been a pretty good goalie the past 2 seasons but his mistakes seem to be instant blooper reel material. The goal he let in off his gloves against Chivas de Guadalajara, the Beckham freekick in SuperLiga and now this hellaciously bad clearance into Razov's posterior. Definitely took me back to Keller vs Hermosillo.
DC was good until the Perkins - Razov goal and then Chivas USA were better for the final 60 minutes. Kljestan was good and beat many different DC defenders throughout the game and as Pique posted was mostly responsible for Vaughn's goal. Guzan didn't have any howlers like Perkins but he seems to cough up too many rebounds on low hard shots.
Pique thought Chivas was lucky to earn the tie and I kinda feel that way about DC, too. We got lucky when Panchito Mendoza had a stoppage time 1-v-1 opportunity wrongly denied by a really bad offside call.
Merengue - September 14, 2007 04:20 PM (GMT)
Chivas beat Galaxy again by 3-0 last night. And by winning Chivas even tied Houston for first place in the group and they have played two games less. At times some of Chivas' passing was quite good but they should have put the Galaxy away earlier as it was still 1-0 until late in the game but at the same time the Galaxy rarely threatened Chivas. Nice goal by Razov who faked Abel Xavier out of his boots as Razov moved to his right and scored with his right foot!
shelsoccer - September 14, 2007 07:47 PM (GMT)
I'm impressed with Chivas USA. And this from a KC fan who seriously doubted that Preki could coach a lick.
Their passing and movement off the ball is quite good, despite the fact they play with two defensive mids (Marsch and Nagamura). They have two good strikers in Razov and Galindo. Guzan is a promising young keeper.
Perhaps most surprising is how solid their back four is. They're milking the last drops out of Suarez. Somehow, Preki has gotten the most out of Thomas, who was useful but inconsistent (and often out of shape) in KC. Vaughn has been something of a revelation and, by MLS standards, Bornstein is a very good left back.
A Chivas-DC final would be a quality final if it comes to pass -- presumably, an attractive display that would speak well of the quality of soccer in MLS.
What's been particularly interesting to me -- and you've probably read articles to this effect -- is how Chivas is reinventing itself. They've scrapped the use of second-tier Mexican players, and the team bears little resemblance to its namesake other than its uniforms.
Ironically, this has been effective on the field but hasn't translated at the turnstiles. I wonder if Chivas USA shouldn't give up on the overt link to their Guadalajara parent club and just rebrand itself as a "normal" MLS club.
The LA market is certainly big enough to support two clubs. Chivas with its own identity separate from their parent club and own stadium could be a very viable MLS franchise.
rosarino - September 14, 2007 10:18 PM (GMT)
I watched last night's LA clasico and enjoyed it. I also thought Chivas USA put togetehr some excellent passing moves but they did seem to lack the killer instinct against the Galaxy, who by th way are a truly awful team. Landon Donovan tried to create soem things but his teammates are just simply bad. Chivas' Klejstan is a midfield player with a lot of energy and pretty good skill. I think he is a player to watch for the future.
shelsoccer brings up a point about Chivas USA tyring to drop the Chivas affiliation all together. But wouldn't that also lose some of the hard core base this team obviously has? I enjoyed seeing the giant flag over a section of seats and that brought back good memories of my days back home in Argentina. I think as this team contineus to win they'll attract more fans and then next year with one or two well known additions they'll do just fine and can carve out a niche as the anti Galaxy, that is a team which are affordable to attend and who'll bring an atmosphere different from the norm in MLS.
Martin - September 16, 2007 05:52 AM (GMT)
Defensively I think Chivas USA are doing it with smoke and mirrors. As shelsoccer said they are getting a lot out of some less than stellar players plus an aging Claudio Suarez and a Jonathan Bornstein who I think is having a bit of a sophomore slump (but is still one of MLS' best left backs). Credit for that has to go to Preki, as does the team's passing game which is some of the best I've seen in MLS since DC United and the LA Galaxy back in 1998 or maybe Ray Hudson's Miami Fusion in 2000.
I have really enjoyed watching Klejstan play and he combines good technique with that great energy that rosarino noted. In some ways he reminds me of how Gaizka Mendieta used to play with Valencia at the turn of the century. Klejstan is definitely a player to watch for the future.
About Chivas' rebranding, I don't think it is necessary. I agree with rosarino they can make a niche for themselves as the "anti Galaxy" as he called it. They've won me over as the Galaxy turned me off several years ago with the way they treat their fans and their ever increasing ticket prices. Again I'll agree with rosarino that continued winning will attract fans as would the addition of some more well known players next season. I think Chivas are on the right path on the field and off the field they'll get themselves better organized.
shelsoccer - September 16, 2007 11:57 PM (GMT)
Well, you guys are closer to the Chivas USA situation than I.
However, I would argue that the hard core that still follows the team, while maybe Chivas Guadalaraja fans orginally, have long given up on Chivas USA being a facsimile of the parent club.
They've stuck with the club either because they're the anti-Galaxy as you put it or they still like the team regardless of how many Mexican players are on the field.
They certainly can build on that sentiment. But, if that is the sentiment, why continue to brand yourself as the little brother of a Mexican club.
If they continue to win and add some good players -- whether Mexican or not -- I don't see the need for the Chivas link.
Pique - October 13, 2007 07:41 AM (GMT)
Chivas USA will eventually develop it's own identity apart from the parent team in Guadalajara. It already is on the road to that. And attendance has been up in recent games too as a winning team is attracting more fans (of course Blanco's visit with Chicago also helepd!).
Both Galindo and Razov have some nagging injuries so they sat out the last few matches but then Preki, somewhat inexplicably, put them both on late in the 0-0 tie at Dallas (I guess he was going for the win which would have given Chivas the best overall record in the league) and razov reinjured himself. I'm not sure how bad it is but he even declined taking a left footed free kick late in the match so it wouldn't appear to be anything minor. I say let him rest until the playoffs begin. He'll be needed if Chivas are to advance far.
Merengue - October 15, 2007 05:54 PM (GMT)
Razov injured his knee against Dallas and will miss 6 weeks which puts him out for the remainder of the season and playoffs. Preki will have all offseason to think about his decision about putting a half fit Razov on the field last week.
Pique - October 16, 2007 04:05 AM (GMT)
As I wrote above I think Preki was going for the win and a chance at the best record in the league. In retrospect it was a bad move because of Razov suffering his injury. Without him it will be hard for Chivas to advance far in the playoffs. Galindo has slowed down the past month and a half and now without Razov I wonder where the goals will come from?
Martin - October 16, 2007 08:53 PM (GMT)
Preki rolled the dice and lost. If Razov was healthy then I could see using him in that Dallas game to try and go for the best overall record in the league, which I believe gives a spot in the CONCACAF Champions Cup. But using an unfit Razov in those circumstances was not wise and it was a move which backfired. Hindsight is 20-20 right???!!! Preki is a young coach on the rise and he'll learn from this but it isn't helping out Chivas 2007 season.
Pique - October 18, 2007 07:42 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Martin @ Oct 16 2007, 12:53 PM)|
| Preki rolled the dice and lost. If Razov was healthy then I could see using him in that Dallas game to try and go for the best overall record in the league, which I believe gives a spot in the CONCACAF Champions Cup. But using an unfit Razov in those circumstances was not wise and it was a move which backfired. Hindsight is 20-20 right???!!! Preki is a young coach on the rise and he'll learn from this but it isn't helping out Chivas 2007 season. |
New coaches, like new players go through an adaptation process no matter what success they've originally achieved. That is what this move with Razov was for Preki. Was Razov's knee ligament injury suffered against Dallas even related to his pre existing one of a bad hamstring? I don't know but without knowing that it also may be premature to denounce Preki for playing a half fit Razov as causing his injury.
Between Merlin and Cunliffe, I think I'd select Merlin as Galindo's new partner at forward. He isn't Razov but Merlin works hard and has above average skill so he can hopefully help set up Galindo and get the Cuban back on his scoring streak.
Martin - November 8, 2007 10:00 PM (GMT)
Preki won the award as top MLS coach for 2007 which is in addition to Guzan winning the top goalie prize. But now for some bad news, it looks like Chivas de Guadalajara will be recalling Francisco Mendoza, he's apparently played in MLS these last three years on loan from the parent Chivas club in Mexico. Mendoza certainly will get a pay rise if he ends up heading back to Guadalajara and as JT brought up earlier the rumors are Chivas USA are hoping they can get Ramon Morales as 'compensation' for sending Mendoza back to Mexico. Again though it remains to be seen if Morales would accept such a move. Could be an interesting offseason with Chivas USA.
Pique - November 9, 2007 07:24 AM (GMT)
That would be a good move for Mendoza but not one for Chivas USA. With Morales still fighting for a spot on Mexico's national team I don't see him as being anxious to go to MLS. He'd prefer to stay in Mexico.
Pique - January 19, 2008 05:13 AM (GMT)
It has been several months since we last talked about Chivas USA. I'll give a few recent developments with the team,
1. Francisco Mendoza is staying with Chivas USA
2. Preki signed a contract extension.
3. Today the team acquired forward Alecko Eskandarian from Salt lake for the newest vogue in MLS trades, "allocation money."
4. Chivas USA also picked up Atiba Harris another forward from Salt Lake.
5. Jose Saturnino Cardozo, a 37 year old ex Paraguayan World Cup player and leading scorer with Toluca in Mexico is talking with the club about a possible comeback! Cardozo has been retired for over a year and had an unsuccessful spell as a coach in his native Paraguay.
Ok, now some comments on this news, good move keeping Mendoza and of course re-signing Preki as coach. Razov's injury at the end of last season showed the team needs depth at forward and Eskandarian will help there. Harris may too, if he makes the team.
Now the crazy story is even thinking about signing Cardozo. There was a reason he retired, he was no longer effective! Signing him would be a big mistake, after acquiring Eskandarian and Harris, Chivas have strengthened their forward line, they don't need Cardozo. Look for another defender or possibly a midfielder if the team are looking to spend money on a big name player.
Roosevelt - January 22, 2008 03:54 AM (GMT)
So, Guzan is off to Celtic, at least to trial and perhaps end up with a transfer. Very nice for him, but would definitely leave a gaping hole there for Chivas USA, especially having traded Preston Burpo to the Quakes. GK suddenly becomes the most pressing issue for the team. Any ideas, Pique?
Merengue - January 23, 2008 06:35 AM (GMT)
Has it been established that Guzan could obtain a work permit for the UK? He'd have to do it via his family's ancestry as he certainly hasn't played enough for the US to obtain one.
Pique - January 25, 2008 05:42 AM (GMT)
I guess in an attempt to strengthen the bench, Chivas USA signed Jim Curtin from Chicago. As a backup he's decent enough.
shelsoccer - February 4, 2008 09:37 PM (GMT)
Just announced the signing of Swiss mid Raphael Wicky, 30. Not a bad move, imo.
Pique - February 5, 2008 05:38 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (shelsoccer @ Feb 4 2008, 01:37 PM)|
| Just announced the signing of Swiss mid Raphael Wicky, 30. Not a bad move, imo. |
It is an interesting move and I wonder what effect it will have on Jesse Marsch who plays the same position as Wicky? But you have to think Marsch doesn't have many more years left but Preki seems to prefer playing double defensive midfielders anyhow so perhaps Marsch and Wicky will be the new pair of central midfielders?