Relics of the Land, Who really made them?
AZPhoenixSong
Posted: Feb 2 2008, 10:18 AM


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Spolier Alert! This discussion may give away some things if you haven't read Relic Quest!


So in Relic Quest the discussion of relics goes like this:

Prince: "Relics are. They help the Land. They are spread throughout each of the regions, designed to fulfull a function only known by their maker."

Tracy: "Who would be the Grid Manager."

Prince: "Yes." (page 150-151)

Okay, this confuses me. I know that the Grid Manager has lots to do with his dimensions. We know from Oracle, that the Land is one of his favorite dimensions, but we aren't told why. Even with this knowledge, it seems odd to me that the relics are created by the Grid Manager. Wouldn't it make more sense if they were created by the ancients of the Land?...even at the direction from the Grid Manager. My Webster's defines relis as "a surviving memorial of something past." Does the Grid Manager come from the Land, then?

Once Tracy and Orli get to the end of the caves where the relic comes from, there are carvings on the walls of the Land regions and the Tree. My feeling is that these were done by the ancestors to those who currently inhabit the Land. However, if the relics are created by the Grid Manager, wouldn't that mean the carvings are too?

Did anyone else think it was strange that the Grid Manager created the relics? blink.gif
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Posted: Feb 4 2008, 06:11 AM


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Why would it mean that the ancestors made the relics if they did the carvings? I mean, they probably knew about the relics of the Land so why wouldn't they be able to make carvings?

I think the Grid manager loves the Land because it is not tainted by Evil (well, it wasn't for a long time if I understand correctly), not until Oracle Quest anyways.
It is a pure dimension and because they do not know Evil, they don't know how to fight it.

I think it makes perfect sense that the Grid Manager created the Relics. Perhaps he did so for all the dimensions under his care, who knows?
I think it isn't that far-fetched, and it makes perfect sense to me.
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AZPhoenixSong
Posted: Feb 4 2008, 12:37 PM


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Maybe I am getting caught up in the word itself. I always think that relic is something left over from the ancestors. I must have missed it in past readings that it was the grid manager. So, it surprised me.

I didn't think the grid manager was involved to that degree that he would be creating the foundation of the future civilizations.

That makes me wonder about what else the grid manager did. If he placed the relics, did he create the magic also?
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Posted: Feb 4 2008, 03:32 PM


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LOL I love it that not everything is laid in front of our hands. These books really have to make us think and theorize, which is so much fun!! Especially when it all turns out to be just fine, like with JKR's work. I thought those books were brilliant because of its details, things from book 1 came back in book 7 etc. So I hope this will be the same!!!
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Posted: Mar 30 2008, 06:05 PM


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I thought I remembered that Lisa said (and forgive me if that's wrong, I've been trying to read ALL the posts on the board and have been on the site for like 5 hours today so far) that the Grid Managers created the dimensions. Wouldn't that mean they're kinda like gods that created the worlds? Then it would make sense for the "creator" to place the relics "spread throughout each of the regions, designed to fulfull a function only known by their maker." (p 150)

If you go to Dictionary.com there are multiple definitions for the term relic including:

~an antiquity that has survived from the distant past

~Something that has survived the passage of time, especially an object or custom whose original culture has disappeared.

~Something cherished for its age or historic interest.

I think, based on the many definitions for this term, it's possible that it is considered a relic because it is ancient.

And I would think that primative ancestors (much like our own), upon finding a cave where a beam of light rises from a crystal cricket that balances a large piece of land, would think of it as a holy place, created by a more powerful being. They would be likely to decorate a place that they would probably visit frequently as an area of worship, or something like that. So the ancestors probably did decorate it, not the grid manager.
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QUOTE (AZPhoenixSong @ Feb 2 2008, 10:18 AM)
Prince: "Relics are. They help the Land. They are spread throughout each of the regions, designed to fulfull a function only known by their maker."

I'm wondering as there seems to be other Relics throughthe land, what these are and what their purposes are.
Would it be one for each regions, or one for every purpose.
What do you think their purposes could be?
I'm thinkingmaybe there is one that guards he Mountain Village, keeping it safe from others, as it seems kinda odd that noone else has ever discovered it and its just a myth.
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Posted: Apr 16 2008, 10:45 PM


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That's right...Relic Quest doesn't specifically mention any other relics of the Land! Good catch. Do you think the mother tree could be a relic? forummarker.gif
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Posted: Jul 14 2008, 09:45 PM


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I wonder if other relics in the Land are also protecting places, like the cricket held up the Capitol City. Perhaps there is a relic that maintains the Barrier to protect the Land from the outside or maybe there was a relic that held the Quicksilver in place and is now missing.

If there are relics in the Land that were made by the Grid Managers, are there relics in other dimensions too?
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QUOTE (NifflerLady @ Jul 15 2008, 03:45 AM)
I wonder if other relics in the Land are also protecting places, like the cricket held up the Capitol City. Perhaps there is a relic that maintains the Barrier to protect the Land from the outside or maybe there was a relic that held the Quicksilver in place and is now missing.

If there are relics in the Land that were made by the Grid Managers, are there relics in other dimensions too?

I know the relic for the Barrier, and I have a good guess as to the Relic for the Mountain Village....

You'll understand the Relics better after reading Seer Quest.... trust me!
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AZPhoenixSong
Posted: Jul 21 2008, 06:21 PM


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QUOTE (NifflerLady @ Jul 14 2008, 09:45 PM)
I wonder if other relics in the Land are also protecting places, like the cricket held up the Capitol City. Perhaps there is a relic that maintains the Barrier to protect the Land from the outside or maybe there was a relic that held the Quicksilver in place and is now missing.

If there are relics in the Land that were made by the Grid Managers, are there relics in other dimensions too?

I like the question about Relics in other dimensions. That would stand to reason, wouldn't it?

Does that mean that the Relics have to be seized by Evil before a dimension can fall?
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