Title: Neutered Males- Can The Op Be Undone?
Nikki - June 22, 2005 01:07 PM (GMT)
Neutered Males- Can the op be undone?
This may sound like a stupid question, but I know for a fact that when human males get "the snip", it CAN reserve itself. I'm wondering if this can happen in bucks, as I have two neutered bucks and one unspayed doe, and my doe has been making herself a nest.
I'm fully aware that this may be a pseudo pregnancy, and she HAS had one before. However, before was after her entire life had been turned upside-down and back again. Now, life is fairly normal and I can't think of anything to trigger her behavoir off.
Another thing is that I went into the lounge and peered behind the sofa, where she was with one of the bucks. She had a mouth filled with her own fur, and when I reached out to her, she backed off and growled at me. She hasn't backed away from anyone since about a month after we got her, and she has NEVER growled before, not even at the boys when we first got them and they were locked away in her favourite corner.
I can't understand her behavoir, and I'm rather worried. Any insight into whether either of the boys' ops may have failed in some way, would be greatly appreciated.
Robyn - June 22, 2005 04:39 PM (GMT)
Human males get vasectomies where the "lines" from their testicles to their penis are cut. These can then later be reconnected if so desired. In dogs, cats, rabbits, ferrets, and all other animals that are neutered, the testicles themselves are removed. This not only prevents them for being fertile but robs them of the high levels of testosterone and behaviors we don't want such as aggression, running away, mounting everything in site, etc. Such a surgery cannot be reversed.
Now, if the vet made a mistake and left even a small portion of testicular material, the buck may still be fertile. While this can happen, it would be rare and due to a bad vet.
Your doe is most likely having a false pregnancy. Her aggression and desire to bite are common to intact does. The fur plucking and nest building can happen if she thinks she's pregnant from a profound desire to be so. If you don't plan to breed her, it's a lot easier on her to be spayed. It also prevents reproductive cancers which occur in a large percentage of unspayed does.
Nikki - June 22, 2005 07:13 PM (GMT)
I can't comment on the vet, as they were neutered before we got them. As for Fudge's behavoir... (the doe) As I said, she HAS has pseudo-pregnancies before, but mostly it was nest-building and generally being anti-social. She has never shown a sign of agression since we've had her, and I think it was this that startled me the most.
She's being very anti-social still, but she hasn't shown any signs of agressiveness since. Mind you, she has been in my bedroom, whereas she was nestbuilding in the lounge. She may be being posessive over her nest, where she perceives that she will give birth.
We do plan on getting her spayed, but we're still undecided as to whether we want to breed her first. She is a wonderful specimin of a Flemish Giant, very intelligent and energetic, so we are considering mating her with a Flemish Giant sire. However, I have noticed her whiskers and nose have a few grey hairs. All we knew when we got her was that she was between one and six. We assumed she was the younger end of the spectrum; it now looks otherwise. We will be deciding in the next few weeks whether to breed her first; personally I'd rather not, but it's not just my decision.
Do you have any advice on how to check if Fudge is genuinely pregnant, or is just having a phantom pregnancy?
Robyn - June 24, 2005 12:26 AM (GMT)
Rabbit pregnancies last about 31 days. You can palpate and feel the babies after 2 weeks or longer. You have to be gentle so if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. A vet can do it. Basically, you gently feel up in the lower abdomen for the lumps which are babies. They will just be marble-sized at a few weeks for a Flemist Giant and then grow larger. Also, as she nears delivery, her breasts will enlarge with milk. I think it's highly unlikely she is pregnant if the males are neutered. Have you examined them lately? If properly neutered, their testicles should be small or non-existent. Of course, if a tiny portion remained, you may not be able to tell. But, if fully intact, it should be obvious.
Nikki - June 24, 2005 11:19 AM (GMT)
The boys have definately been neutered- I believe the previous owner when she says they were. However, there HAS been a noticable difference in Storm, one of the boys, recently. He's slowly become far more aggresive, occasionally attacking both Benjamin and Fudge, not to mntion biting whenever handled. I put it down to the increasingly warm and humid weather, but with Fudge's change in behavoir, I'm now not so certain. It's unlikely that she IS genuinely pregnant, but until we know for certain I shall treat it as if she is, to be on the same side. Also, we're trying to keep Storm away from her most of the time, as he's really not being a nice rabbit and is going to cause her unnecessary stress. Another thing I have noticed is the amount Fudge has been drinking; she usually drinks very little but has been drinking much more than usual. As with Storm's behavoir, this could just be the heat, but until I know for certain, as I said, I shall treat her as though she genuinely is pregnant.