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 Technology-based awes
Pixellated
Posted: May 4 2011, 10:57 PM


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Yet another major breakthrough in getting computing power that much better.

It begs the question, though: what technological advancements in our generation, when you think about it, leave you in awe? For me, it's the fact that for my previous major project, the basic motion-tracking I did would have cost millions for a film studio some twenty, thirty years ago.
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J29
Posted: May 4 2011, 11:30 PM


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I want a robot body by the time I die. They've already got robot limbs that can be controlled by the brain, I just need a way to sustain brain function indefinitely.
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csadn
Posted: May 4 2011, 11:30 PM


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QUOTE (Pixellated @ May 4 2011, 10:57 PM)
It begs the question, though: what technological advancements in our generation, when you think about it, leave you in awe?

I am a Science Fiction Fan -- *NOTHING* so far impresses me. Call me when you can get me off this fucking rock, and to another habitable star system.
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Korvaz
Posted: May 4 2011, 11:38 PM


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Technology is evolving. End user knowledge is not. People willingly sign away their identity to companies who will gladly sell them on for a quick buck. It's becoming harder and harder to use the net without becoming a member of a mailing database.

Technology will keep going on and on, and user knowledge needs to start catching up, before it bites them. hard.
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Fangle Spangle
Posted: May 5 2011, 02:28 AM


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put simply, the internet. The things that the internet is being used for today would be seen as pure crazy by most people probably as little as 10 years ago, let alone when the Internet first came about. Any old commoner can have portable, real time video calls from any point on the planet (so long as you have a satellite pointing at it)

Hell I mean I'm spouting crap at people I have never met who probably live at least a good 100 miles away whilst eating a packet of Nik-Naks.

This post has been edited by Fangle Spangle on May 5 2011, 02:29 AM
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Retrogamer!
Posted: May 5 2011, 03:21 AM


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QUOTE (Fangle Spangle @ May 5 2011, 02:28 AM)
put simply, the internet. The things that the internet is being used for today would be seen as pure crazy by most people probably as little as 10 years ago, let alone when the Internet first came about. Any old commoner can have portable, real time video calls from any point on the planet (so long as you have a satellite pointing at it)

Hell I mean I'm spouting crap at people I have never met who probably live at least a good 100 miles away whilst eating a packet of Nik-Naks.

This. So much this.

The internet truly is our generation's "moon mission" moment. It's changed the world more than any single technology I can actually think of at all. And believe me, I tried.
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csadn
Posted: May 5 2011, 11:50 PM


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QUOTE (Retrogamer! @ May 5 2011, 03:21 AM)
The internet truly is our generation's "moon mission" moment. It's changed the world more than any single technology I can actually think of at all. And believe me, I tried.

Bah. Humbug.

Teh Intertoobz is nothing more or less than the ultimate in navel-gazing -- turning away from the outside and new experiences in favor of internalization and concentration only on what already interests one.

Never mind being the literal exponent of Churchill's remark about "a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth even puts on its boots" (x-ref: Snopes.com).

And, of course: One Big-enough EMP, and this technological terror goes bye-bye. (Same for One Big-Enough Rock falling from space.)

It is an advancement, of sorts -- but it is not in any way impressive.
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Feldoon
Posted: May 6 2011, 12:33 AM


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QUOTE (csadn @ May 6 2011, 12:50 AM)
Teh Intertoobz is nothing more or less than the ultimate in navel-gazing -- turning away from the outside and new experiences in favor of internalization and concentration only on what already interests one.

Except it's really not. It's the ultimate learning aid and can teach you anything you want to know. Human civilisation was built upon the sharing of information and that's exactly what the Internet is. And on a global scale.
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Taneis
Posted: May 6 2011, 06:30 AM


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:) I love the internet. I will truly miss it when our civilization collapses - and it will. All civilizations collapse. Though csadn has a point.
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Eastwood
Posted: May 6 2011, 09:06 PM


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Jesus Clockwork Christ some of you are miserable conjurers.
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Korvaz
Posted: May 6 2011, 09:22 PM


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I prefer to think of myself as a sensible conjurer.
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csadn
Posted: May 6 2011, 09:43 PM


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QUOTE (Feldoon @ May 6 2011, 12:33 AM)
It's the ultimate learning aid and can teach you anything you want to know.

I wouldn't be quite so optimistic -- between the "deletionists" on Wikipedia, and the websites being advertised in my spam-filter (like "why the Jews really run everything" -- yeah, that kind of bullshit), there's as much opportunity for *mis*information as information.

It might be useful for finding staring points from which to get to actual data, but as a be-and-end-all, it's not there yet. Maybe later -- not now.

And I don't Conjure -- I Abjure. :)
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Eastwood
Posted: May 6 2011, 09:53 PM


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For those playing at home, conjurer is a swear-filter replacement for another word. Try and guess just what.
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Feldoon
Posted: May 6 2011, 10:00 PM


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QUOTE (csadn @ May 6 2011, 10:43 PM)
there's as much opportunity for *mis*information as information.

Just like people.

Just like books.

So yes, it is "there yet".

I happily accept your concession to the argument.
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Dakatsu
Posted: May 6 2011, 10:10 PM


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QUOTE (Eastwood @ May 6 2011, 05:53 PM)
For those playing at home, conjurer is a swear-filter replacement for another word. Try and guess just what.

It rhymes with punt. Only replace the 'p' with a 'c'.
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The Virus
Posted: May 7 2011, 05:47 AM


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Along with a vastly greater potential for information comes a proportional potential for misinformation, that's fairly obvious. Doesn't stop the internet being an amazing thing, and it's irrefutable that it has dramatically changed the world, and will continue to for some time yet. I live in fucking Canada because of the internet. Canada. Didn't see that coming!

Talking about the internet in general, that's all very broad, might be more interesting to look at specific anecdotal moments of revelation. I heard a song recently where somebody had sampled a dial-up modem mixed in as part of the track. That's a horrible sound, painful thing to put in a song, but it did spark a sense of wonder, comparing our online experience nowadays as contrasted to those days, not so long ago at all, when we had to click that icon and wait to dial in before we were online. And only one person could be on at a time, so you had to haggle for booking times with family members. In our house we had free internet at off-peak times, so we'd have to wait til 6 o'clock before we could 'surf the web', otherwise we might run up a big phone bill. And then you'd potter around mostly-text websites, because if you ran into a fair number of images, it could be a considerable wait before they loaded in, a line at a time, top to bottom. And gods help you if you wanted to download an MP3 or video. Tell you what, you had to be really committed to that 30 second porn clip, 'cause it might be another 20 minutes before you could watch another one.

So internet as a whole yes, but even the jump from then has been huge. Now I can stream video after video all night long! (Of My Little Pony parodies, of course. Hm, is that more or less shameful than porn?) It's always on, you don't give it a second thought, and if I want a reference image, I can call up hundreds of images in seconds. Can download entire series of TV shows overnight. It's very strange to be able to do a "in my day, we didn't have it as good" old man routine about something so recent. But that's how fast the technology has moved. Less than 10 years. Hell, I'm sure I uploaded EN comics on dialup for at least a couple of years, so it might be only six or seven (my family was rather late getting broadband, up in the squalid, rural North).
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Pixellated
Posted: May 7 2011, 07:19 AM


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I just like that the closest thing I currently get to doing this is when I render a huge video, and even then I can run VLC without much consequence or just hop on my laptop for the duration.
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Korvaz
Posted: May 7 2011, 07:33 AM


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I guess i get a moment when i look at a computer that someone's just bought, and realise the one i built a year and a bit ago kicks the arse out of it. Is the bundled software REALLY worth the premium they charge?
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Eastwood
Posted: May 7 2011, 10:20 AM


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QUOTE (Korvaz @ May 7 2011, 07:33 AM)
Is the bundled software REALLY worth the premium they charge?

It's convenience. Not everyone has the time, abilities or inclination to build their own PC from scratch. I work with people who buy Macs because they believe they're better than desktop PCs. Even I could put together a rig that could whip anything Apple sells for under a grand. Sure, it wouldn't look as fancy, but it'd work.
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Pixellated
Posted: May 7 2011, 11:26 AM


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QUOTE (Eastwood @ May 7 2011, 11:20 AM)
Sure, it wouldn't look as fancy, but it'd work.

MacPro cases are actually pretty dull, and since your target price to beat is 2000, you could actually spend a good chunk of money getting an upper range case.
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LGHunter
Posted: May 7 2011, 02:19 PM


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It's true that there's a lot of mis-information on the web. Let's look at Wikipedia for a moment. Anyone can edit a page on Wikipedia. "Skeletor wuz here"-esque statements have popped up on several occasions. Even the son of a Canadian (mediocre, seriously unfunny though she tries, last-to-know) Hollywood gossip columnist changed his part of the family group to read "I am the best son" or some-such which she made him change back to what it was.

Two or three years ago there was an Irishman who went onto Wikipedia, and created a quote for an author who died, which almost every newspaper in the world ran. He came out a while later and said, "That's a fake; I wrote that as a test to see who actually checks the references on Wikipedia as there was no citation left on it", and they were all blaming him for their stupidity.

Moving away from Wikipedia to general web-space, there is a supposed picture of Osama bin Laden's bullet-ridden corpse. Turns out, that's a photoshop, used to satisfy the curiosity of the gullible. And let's face it, it's not even that good!

Even Facebook is full of it (however the following was inadvertant). This young woman put a sentence of her thoughts on OBL's death, before doing a Martin Luther King Jr. quote, which people picked up on and thought the entire quote was MLK's, simply editing out the (proper) quotation marks. It was on Failbook a few days back (which I sent to Snopes to help them fix up their entry on this subject!)

I do a search on weight loss, and I get nothing but ads for scams, or too-good-to-be-true diet plans. Exercise is another one. Anyone on the web can call themselves a "professional", a "doctor", a "respected source", a "legitimate business" and it's up to the gullible to fall for it.

I mean, hell, there are all kinds of ads for "work from home", "take surveys to earn cash", "Google AdSense" that all promise thousands of dollars a month, which just doesn't happen. The Better Business Bureau is full of complaints because of them.

The thing is, anyone can go online and say what they want. You can say "The sky is green because of alien intervention" and some nutters out there will believe you. You can say "Peanut butter is the absolute worst thing you can eat because of this report", and people will stop buying it, despite their not going into the report and seeing that it was actually inconclusive, or doing actual research on it; they just blindly accept it as truth.

We all fall for these things at some point in our lives. Hell, just last week, I think I fell for one in the health food store. Celery root water twice a day, and four little pills at night (it's a concentrated cabbage soup diet in water and pill form) will help you lose weight this month!

I only went in for a multi-vitamin and a calcium/magnesium combo to help me sleep at night. I do admit to feeling a bit better, but whether that's just a placebo effect or not, only the scale will tell.
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csadn
Posted: May 7 2011, 11:19 PM


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QUOTE (LGHunter @ May 7 2011, 02:19 PM)
It's true that there's a lot of mis-information on the web. Let's look at Wikipedia for a moment. Anyone can edit a page on Wikipedia. "Skeletor wuz here"-esque statements have popped up on several occasions. Even the son of a Canadian (mediocre, seriously unfunny though she tries, last-to-know) Hollywood gossip columnist changed his part of the family group to read "I am the best son" or some-such which she made him change back to what it was.

Two or three years ago there was an Irishman who went onto Wikipedia, and created a quote for an author who died, which almost every newspaper in the world ran. He came out a while later and said, "That's a fake; I wrote that as a test to see who actually checks the references on Wikipedia as there was no citation left on it", and they were all blaming him for their stupidity.

Moving away from Wikipedia to general web-space, there is a supposed picture of Osama bin Laden's bullet-ridden corpse. Turns out, that's a photoshop, used to satisfy the curiosity of the gullible. And let's face it, it's not even that good!
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I mean, hell, there are all kinds of ads for "work from home", "take surveys to earn cash", "Google AdSense" that all promise thousands of dollars a month, which just doesn't happen. The Better Business Bureau is full of complaints because of them.

Yup -- and time was, one actually had to build an infrastructure to disseminate said BS. Said infrastructure required lots of resources -- and lots of money -- to operate (plus the odd tax-shelter, so one could keep more of one's money).

Now? We have botnets. The ability to scatter bullshit far-and-wide like a farmer with epilepsy has come down to where sub-Saharan-Africans who might not even have a house to live in can sucker idiots into divulging credit-card and other such info; used to be, they had to emigrate here, get a job with the trash company, and actually pick up the garbage so they could root through it to get the paperwork. (I admit I'm exaggerating, but not by much. It was much harder back then.) $100 computer; $20 'net connection; infinite irritation.

As to the Wikipedia BS Dispenser: Used to be, one had to have one's sources in order, and listed in a bibliography, where folks could then look at them and say "OK, that checks" or "Oh dear, that's been quoted-out-of-context" or "That guy was disproved long ago". (WP has a bit of that, but whenever I see "citation needed", I get nervous.) What was published was the stuff which had been vetted; the BS was kept to a dull roar.

Better yet: With a book, the information, once set to page, stays there; if it changes, there's an edition and/or print-run number one can point to and say "OK, it's *that* vintage". Most online sources lack this revision history (a few do, but they're the exceptions, not the rule.) See above re the Irish fake quote.

Photoshop? I'll give that one a pass -- I've seen fake "spirit photos" from the 19th century which were more convincing that some 'shops.

So: There was bullshit before the 'net. What the 'net allowed was for the bullshit to become larger and more rampant, by making it very much easier to create and distribute. This doesn't impress me.

If I want to be impressed, there's a whole bunch of folks down in Mojave, CA, who are actually doing stuff which warrants being impressed over. Most people can type; how many people can fly a rocket?
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Korvaz
Posted: May 7 2011, 11:50 PM


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The future of spam.

Miniturisation. you can fit hundreds of these little bastards into a room.
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Eastwood
Posted: May 8 2011, 08:10 AM


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You're not improving my initial reaction, you know.
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Pixellated
Posted: May 8 2011, 08:50 AM


Put on your 3D glasses


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QUOTE (Eastwood @ May 8 2011, 09:10 AM)
You're not improving my initial reaction, you know.

Burrrugh, technology's rubbish and I hate how it allows us all to seemingly magically talk massive distances instantaneously here
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