Asyut scales
Dan Howard
Posted: Oct 4 2009, 11:42 PM


Ready, served hot..!


Group: Members
Posts: 668
Member No.: 5
Joined: 14-December 04



Four scales in the Petrie Museum. Dated c. 2000BC. Only two lacing holes in each scale. How would these be assembled, what lacing pattern?

http://www.petrie.ucl.ac.uk/detail/details...ils%2Findex.php
Top
Sean Manning
Posted: Oct 17 2009, 08:29 PM


Ready, served hot..!


Group: Members
Posts: 567
Member No.: 110
Joined: 30-May 06



All I can think of is filling some gap somewhere where the usual type of scale wouldn't fit.

There are some wierd types of scale out there. I wish more scale armour survived intact so we could study how the different types of scale were put together.
Top
mjbroyles
Posted: Oct 18 2009, 03:21 AM


Into the Pot...


Group: Members
Posts: 93
Member No.: 31
Joined: 1-February 05



Dan,

I have been thinking about this since I first noticed your post. Perhaps they were laced directly onto a backing of some sort? I am uncertain if such was done by the Egyptians. But it seems to me to be the only way to attach them. You could set the overlap and just sew them on. I have also been mulling over making some Egyptian armor of some sort or another. This would make it easier if it could be determined. It would be nice to know if the resinous material is on both sides or just one. The only other thing I could think of would be a 'coat of plates' style jacket where they were sewn into a fabric again, but this time spaced out a bit and either inside the fabric, or in between two layers of fabric.

Where is our expert on all things scale? dry.gif

Cordially,

Michael
Top
Dan Howard
Posted: Oct 18 2009, 03:51 AM


Ready, served hot..!


Group: Members
Posts: 668
Member No.: 5
Joined: 14-December 04



Thanks guys. I wonder how accurate the dating is. These scales are very early. Kendall reckons that the Egyptians didn't adopt scale armour until it was introduced by the Hurrians in the 16th century.
Top
Matthew Amt
Posted: Oct 19 2009, 12:49 PM


Ready, served hot..!


Group: Admin
Posts: 1,175
Member No.: 11
Joined: 15-December 04



I guess my question would be, Are we sure these are armor scales? Much depends on how they were found, but could they be something else entirely? Though I suppose if they are a "first attempt", that could explain the odd hole pattern. Just trying to question the answers, ha!

Matthew
Top
Dan Howard
Posted: Oct 19 2009, 09:15 PM


Ready, served hot..!


Group: Members
Posts: 668
Member No.: 5
Joined: 14-December 04



That's how I see it. Assuming they are from piece of armour then they should be classed as some sort of proto-scale armour. The two holes enable the plates to be attached to a backing but not to each other.
Top
mjbroyles
Posted: Oct 20 2009, 12:55 AM


Into the Pot...


Group: Members
Posts: 93
Member No.: 31
Joined: 1-February 05



Hello again,

Matt's questioning them as Armor plates sparked another idea. What if they were from a necklace/collar? Then the two holes might allow them to still line up for stringing, and perhaps the odd sizes might even allow them to line up to 'lay' appropriately.

Just a thought.

Michael
Top
« Next Oldest | Egyptian Studies | Next Newest »


Topic Options



Hosted for free by InvisionFree (Terms of Use: Updated 7/7/05) | Powered by Invision Power Board v1.3 Final © 2003 IPS, Inc.
Page creation time: 0.0943 seconds | Archive