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Dan Howard - February 8, 2011 04:26 AM (GMT)
I was wondering what the earliest shield find is. A shield mould found at Kilmahamogue in Ireland was radiocarbon dated to the first half of the second millenium. There is a surviving Mari shield made of reeds and covered with hide. What is the earliest shield boss so far found?

Yves Goris - February 9, 2011 07:40 PM (GMT)
i don't know the earliest shield but i'm interested in knowing more about that mari shield. do you have more info on this?

Todd Feinman - February 9, 2011 09:06 PM (GMT)
Hi Dan,
I'm also interested in the Mari shield! Have you seen the "police" shield on this page:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/policemuseum.htm
It looks pretty old, and the construction is very interesting.

Todd

Dan Howard - February 9, 2011 09:11 PM (GMT)
I don't have any info on the Egyptian police shield, but at first glance it looks like it dates to the Roman period.

The Mari sheild is briefly mentioned in Hamblin's book. On page 57 he is talking about Lagash shields and uses a surviving Mari shield to speculate on how the Lagash ones may have been constructed. All he says is that it was made of reeds and covered with hide.

Todd Feinman - February 9, 2011 09:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dan Howard @ Feb 9 2011, 09:11 PM)
I don't have any info on the Egyptian police shield, but at first glance it looks like it dates to the Roman period.

The Mari sheild is briefly mentioned in Hamblin's book. On page 57 he is talking about Lagash shields and uses a surviving Mari shield to speculate on how the Lagash ones may have been constructed. All he says is that it was made of reeds and covered with hide.

Yeah, I was thinking Roman Period too --it looks a lot like a scutum.
Too bad about the Mari shield details! I wonder where the remains are? I'm sure there are "top men" working on it ;-)

Todd

Dan Howard - February 15, 2011 05:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dan Howard @ Feb 9 2011, 09:11 PM)
The Mari sheild is briefly mentioned in Hamblin's book. On page 57 he is talking about Lagash shields and uses a surviving Mari shield to speculate on how the Lagash ones may have been constructed. All he says is that it was made of reeds and covered with hide.

Have a reference for that Mari Shield. Haven't read it yet.

Joan Aruz (ed.), The Art of the First Cities: The Third Millennium BC from the Mediterranean to the Indus (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2003), 99.

Matthew Amt - February 15, 2011 03:47 PM (GMT)
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Have you seen the "police" shield on this page:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/policemuseum.htm


That's the Fayum shield, dated to the first century BC. It is generally believed to be either Roman or at least Roman-influenced. It's 3 layers of wood strips (birch? I forget) covered with felt.

Matthew

Yves Goris - February 15, 2011 06:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dan Howard @ Feb 15 2011, 05:41 AM)
QUOTE (Dan Howard @ Feb 9 2011, 09:11 PM)
The Mari sheild is briefly mentioned in Hamblin's book. On page 57 he is talking about Lagash shields and uses a surviving Mari shield to speculate on how the Lagash ones may have been constructed. All he says is that it was made of reeds and covered with hide.

Have a reference for that Mari Shield. Haven't read it yet.

Joan Aruz (ed.), The Art of the First Cities: The Third Millennium BC from the Mediterranean to the Indus (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2003), 99.

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