The Dream Is Over

I think it is really a bad idea to even consider this. There is no guarantee that Gore will ever run again. And if Obama loses, Hillary will run again in 2012 and Gore won't run against the Clintons.

We have to deal in the here and now. Four more years of GOP policies will do far too much damage to this country. We can't risk that.

In 2004, many didn't support Kerry, and some even actively trashed him, because they held out the hope that Gore would run in 2008. The blood of those who died in New Orleans is on their hands.

Is anyone here willing the risk a McCain presidency and more dead bodies of US soliders coming home from Iraq and possibly from Iran, in the slim chance that Gore might run in 2012? I would hope not.

Yes I agree with this. I am very sad about this. I am trying to get on with it. I'll never understand why Al Gore didn't run. I am also trying to be more positive if President Carter can endorse Obama, why can't I?

"I'll never understand why Al Gore didn't run."

My opinion is and always has been because he figured 'why bother? why waste all the time and effort and money and GAS when the repukes will simply steal it AGAIN, like they did the last 2 elections?"
The repuke slime machine has got a hold on this country--no, more like an iron-grip on this country, that I would never have believed possible in my wildest dreams (growing up in the liberal hippie atmosphere of the 60's and 70's). I mean, THIS country, not some little third-world dictator-controlled blip on the map. It's mind-blowing. So that's why I never expected him to even consider running.........
BUT WHY doesn't he, or Obama, or Hillary, or Pelosi or any other major dem mover/shaker DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD???!!
THAT'S really the mind-blower. Especially since McClellan's book has come out, no one's doing anything to put the criminals in handcuffs which is long overdue. His book only confirmed what we already knew, but now there's an insider willing to testify against them!
It gave me a glimmer of hope when Recount came out, even tho' it is only an HBO movie, that it might put the spotlight on the Florida fiasco, refreshing people's memories that a bunch of crooks stole the 2000 election and HOPEFULLY SOMETHING will finally be done about it!
Anyway, I couldn't let myself be happy about Obama getting the nomination since I don't want the same crashing disappointment I felt in 2000 and 2004 :wtf:
(I should've moved to Canada long ago :( )

The book that Gore studied says that you do NOT run against an incumbent President either? 2016 would be the year, but trust me, I am NOT waiting nor even wishing Gore to run!

They have already mounted an effective disinformation campaign against Climate Change! We are now the "Brown Shirt Nazi's" trying to bring about the NWO, etc and they have done a good job at that.

This has been fueled by the oil crisis and was predicted to a degree in the movie "Three days of the Condor."

It will be all Gore can accomplish to keep the rest of the world moving forward on the climate while we live in fear of the NWO and religion.

It is to Gore's credit in my book that he has fell out of love with politics. It means he is not the usual politician!

While Obama will get my vote if it even matters, he is not the second coming, but I have already heard that he intends to complete the New Deal that FDR started?

What I fail to understand was what was it FDR did but save a starving nation, oops thats right only 25 percent were starving; the rest had it OK?

Last, you don't really think Obama will have all of the troops home from Iraq by 2012, do ya :tongue:

This post has been edited by oleblueraider on Jun 5 2008, 09:59 AM

I think it is really a bad idea to even consider this. There is no guarantee that Gore will ever run again. And if Obama loses, Hillary will run again in 2012 and Gore won't run against the Clintons.

We have to deal in the here and now. Four more years of GOP policies will do far too much damage to this country. We can't risk that.

In 2004, many didn't support Kerry, and some even actively trashed him, because they held out the hope that Gore would run in 2008. The blood of those who died in New Orleans is on there hands.

Is anyone here willing the risk a McCain presidency and more dead bodies of US soliders coming home from Iraq and possibly from Iran, in the slim chance that Gore might run in 2012? I would hope not.

:?:

I'm not "considering" anything. It's not like I'm suggesting that anyone DO anything to make it so Gore can run again. All I said was that if, for some reason, Obama doesn't win in November, there's always the possibility that Gore might try again. He even said as much in his last interviews, particularly the Rolling Stone one. No, he didn't say, "I will run again if a Democrat doesn't win in '08." But he did ask his supporters to hold onto that energy in case he tries again in the future. So all I'm saying is the draft movement is here waiting to pick up the pieces if McCain ends up taking it. In the meantime, I said that everyone should get behind our nominee and work to take back the White House.

Well stated and I'm with you, EM (...except I'm not quite there yet on that very last sentence but I'm working on getting there with a fierce-urgency-of-now effort).

This post has been edited by hangingchad on Jun 5 2008, 12:05 PM

Call me naive or call me optimistic, but yes, I think Obama will have the troops out of Iraq by 2012. I don't mean every last Marine guarding the embassy, but yeah, the troops will start to return next year and we should have them pretty much all back home by 2010.

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If Bush takes us into Iran before he leaves, and he has til January to do it,
the troops will be no issue at all that are in Iraq

That is the problem with limiting the talk to troops in Iraq.

It should be NO troops anywhere.

There is one and only one way for Gore to be President now. And he and earthmother seem to have said no to that way.

But Gore himself said the other day, it is not the candidates name that matters.

I need help! I am totally turn-off with this election cycle.

Sorry but although you are not advocating there are those who may consider it. If you remember there were some on this and other Gore sites who bashed Kerry for months back in 2004. Their goal was for Kerry to lose so Gore would hopefully run in 2008. Chris put a stop to it here but on some other forums it got out of control.

Right now there should be one goal: to elect Barak Obama. So saying "the draft movement is here waiting to pick up the pieces if McCain ends up taking it" like some circling vulture just sends the wrong message.

I know what you're saying, but all I've done is state the obvious. There will always be a draft movement as long as there's any possibility of a Gore presidency, and people know that. Having said that, my message has been consistently that we should work to get the Dem. nominee elected.

But just to be on the safe side . . .

Don't assume that Gore will ever run again.

Don't gamble with our future by risking another 4-8 years of Rep. control.

Vote to get the Dem. nominee in the White House in 2008.

:D

Barack Obama has a southern strategy. His name is Jim Webb

Why has Gore not endorsed Obama yet? Is he waiting for the convention? He really has stayed out of this one.

As long as he lives there will always be people who want him to run again. When he was denied his due in 2000, afterward it was like we were living an alternate reality. How different would our lives have been?

Last year, about August I began to have hope that he might have run but after his son got in such trouble I KNEW there would be no way in hell. His family means too much to him.

Earthmother, I think we all know you are not advocating people to vote for McCain in hopes that Gore will run in 4 years - nor have you encouraged it. You have simply stated - as any smart Draft Gore person would state - that the Gore movement would be here if the need ever arose again. :good:

I am feeling confident about Obama just in the things I've been hearing. He's not rushing in picking a VP and I think it's telling that he's not caving to pressure to pick Clinton. I also like that he's standing firm about not taking donations from federal lobbyists. He's also talking about two domestic issues that he thinks will be important - universal health care and our energy policies. I just have a good feeling about him and he's going to be a breath of fresh air, if he becomes our next President. :Y:

Wayne, I agree. I think Obama would do his darndest to get the troops out by 2012 if not sooner. He sounds pretty realistic in that he's stated that it's not going to be a small feat but I think he can get it done. :Y:

Patsy, I feel for you, girl. It's been a long, disappointing roller coaster ride., but I believe that Obama will be our silver lining, providing he wins which I think he has a really good chance. Hopefully, Obama will be able to dispel any uneasiness that people may feel toward him and be able to bring people together. :Y: