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 Al Gore: Why We Fired Keith Olbermann
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Posted: Apr 8 2012, 01:32 AM
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The more that comes out, it does make me wonder if Keith wasn't trying to sabotage Current TV, as much as I hate to think that. Why would he not help promote the other shows, etc. And make a big deal about car service and the sets. Why didn't he offer to take a cut in pay then? Looks like a lot of money was being spent on him.
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Posted: Apr 8 2012, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Texan for Gore @ Apr 8 2012, 01:32 AM)
The more that comes out, it does make me wonder if Keith wasn't trying to sabotage Current TV, as much as I hate to think that. Why would he not help promote the other shows, etc. And make a big deal about car service and the sets. Why didn't he offer to take a cut in pay then? Looks like a lot of money was being spent on him.

texan-you have a consistant pattern to always say someone should work for free, or give it back

Keith had a contract and what he is/ isn't suppose to do is all written in the contract which will wind its way through court

in 2012, nothing is done for free by any sides
it is all one breaking of a contract away from leaving a firm


btw texan-how much work will you do for free? How many benefits you have would you give up? If our talk on health insurance in the past is any rationale, you said you wouldn't want to give up what you had.

So why would Keith?

These are professionals (on all sides). Current tv is not working for free.
Neither are its owners (who, come on all, get it on the table, they are billionaires themselveves.)

and management made the decision with all that is known about Keith, to go ahead and hire him.
For all we know, they were going to do this to Keith at this exact time knowingly
back when its done


as for loyalty? It don't exist in 2012. on any side in dealing with contracts.

imho
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Posted: Apr 8 2012, 12:27 PM
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Just because someone is a liberal doesn't mean that they can't also be a prima donna and a major pain in the ass to deal with. Now I have a better idea why Randi Rhodes has had a problem with Keith Olbermann.
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Posted: Apr 8 2012, 01:52 PM
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hmmm. I have always liked and respected both Al Gore and Keith Olbermann and had high hopes that they were building a progressive equivalent to Fox.

A shame this happened and I take no joy in the outcome to date. I hope it gets resolved without further bitterness and loss of reputation.
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Posted: Apr 8 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2016 @ Apr 8 2012, 08:07 AM)
QUOTE (Texan for Gore @ Apr 8 2012, 01:32 AM)
The more that comes out, it does make me wonder if Keith wasn't trying to sabotage Current TV, as much as I hate to think that.  Why would he not help promote the other shows, etc.  And make a big deal about car service and the sets.  Why didn't he offer to take a cut in pay then?  Looks like a lot of money was being spent on him.

texan-you have a consistant pattern to always say someone should work for free, or give it back

Keith had a contract and what he is/ isn't suppose to do is all written in the contract which will wind its way through court

in 2012, nothing is done for free by any sides
it is all one breaking of a contract away from leaving a firm


btw texan-how much work will you do for free? How many benefits you have would you give up? If our talk on health insurance in the past is any rationale, you said you wouldn't want to give up what you had.

So why would Keith?

These are professionals (on all sides). Current tv is not working for free.
Neither are its owners (who, come on all, get it on the table, they are billionaires themselveves.)

and management made the decision with all that is known about Keith, to go ahead and hire him.
For all we know, they were going to do this to Keith at this exact time knowingly
back when its done


as for loyalty? It don't exist in 2012. on any side in dealing with contracts.

imho

Where did I say Keith or anybody else should work for free? You have a bad habit of making things up. <_<

I suggested maybe he should have taken a cut in pay if he wasn't satisfied with the sets or car service. A salary of $10 million a year is nothing to sneeze about, as well as a stake in Current. If he cared about the network, surely he could have made some sacrifices instead of throwing hissy fits. What is it you're always saying about Feingold taking his ball home?

Look at how Al has made sacrifices and donated money toward climate change - something that he cares about. He didn't pocket all the money.

I believe when we've discussed healthcare, I told you that my healthcare plan had changed for the worse, covering less than it did and fees going up. I wouldn't have minded a single-payer health plan where everyone pays in. It certainly would have been fairer and more affordable for everyone instead of lining the pockets of insurance companies.

You know, it seems like you are taking Keith's side just because I said something negative about him. If I had sided with him, you probably would have done the opposite. Actually, I hate that this has happened between Current and Olbermann. I thought they were building a good network together. It's a shame that Keith had to let his ego get in the way.

Loyalty is a two-way street, but some seem to think it is expected of only one side.
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Right-Wing Fueled By Olbermann Vs Gore Feud: But Real Loser Is Liberal Current TV

http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/right-wing...tv/#more-253909

Conservative media are immensely enjoying the legal combat which erupted last week between Keith Olbermann and Al Gore¡¯s Current TV cable network. The lawsuits and countersuits have prompted headlines like ¡°Epic Ego Fail¡± to describe Olbermann. But Gore, too, is coming in for ridicule as shown by the Internet illustrations above. ¡°Would anyone like some popcorn as two of the biggest meatheads in cable news duke it out?¡± wrote Breitbart.com. ¡°One behaves as though he invented broadcasting, the other claims he invented the Internet.¡± Still another right-wing article hypes the battle between Gore and ¡°favorite lefty TV spokesboor¡± Olbermann, even claiming the day Olbermann sued the employer (April 5th) ¡±will henceforth be known among conservatives as ¡®National Schadenfreude Day¡¯. ¡­ Keith is dissing Al as a goof, which makes Keith what kind of doof for being suckered by him?¡± For that matter, what kind of dork goes on Letterman and describes himself as ¡°a $10 million chandelier¡± while detailing what is basically a run-of-the-mill employment dispute. Which prompted the right-wing Washington Times to snark in a headline: ¡°Yes, Olbermann is like a $10 million chandelier: Fragile and vastly overpriced.¡± Even more to the point, Olbermann¡¯s $70 million lawsuit and Current¡¯s countersuit over his $50 million TV contract confirms conservatives¡¯ worst stereotypes about the left-wing media. It turns out they really are limousine liberals: among examples of Olbermann¡¯s misbehavior, Current cites more than $50,000 spent among 8 limousine companies. And so on.

Much to the glee of the GOP, the legal battle also lays bare the dysfunction inside Current TV run by the former Democraic Vice President Al Gore and his longtime pal Joel Hyatt, who was 2000¡äs National Finance Chair for the Democratic Party. Liberals wondering why the channel doesn¡¯t get more audience traction only need to read Olbermann¡¯s legal complaint for the answers. As its intro says: ¡±After being enticed to leave MSNBC and come to Current with promises of editorial control, freedom from corporate influence, and the professional support to produce a high caliber political commentary show of the type his viewers have come to expect, Keith Olbermann was disheartened to discover Al Gore, Joel Hyatt, and the management of Current are no more than dilettantes portraying entertainment industry executives.¡± In actuality Olbermann¡¯s reps made it clear before the lawsuit was filed that Camp Keith¡¯s ire isn¡¯t directed that much at Gore. Instead the full frontal attack is reserved for Hyatt. Olbermann privately and now publicly portrays the attorney/businessman/broadcasting partner of Gore¡¯s since 2004 as not just an amateur mogul but also a professional screwup who not only leads Gore around by the nose but also led the anti-Keith campaign at Current. None of it¡¯s a pretty picture. Because if they can¡¯t even run their own channel then how in hell are they supposed to compete against Roger Ailes or Rush Limbaugh. No wonder progressives aren¡¯t watching. So why shouldn¡¯t conservatives be gleeful?

Related: Fired Keith Olbermann Sues Current TV & Alleges Mismanagement

Last Friday, Current TV responded within 24 hours to Keith Olbermann¡¯s $70 million lawsuit over his firing and accusations of mismanagement, bungling, breach of contract and other claims against the network. Like Olbermanan¡¯s lawsuit, Current¡¯s counterclaims don¡¯t pull any punches (which you can read here) against the former Countdown With Keith Olbermann anchor and his Olbermann Media Empire Inc.

Zeroing in on Olbermann¡¯s admission to David Letterman that ¡°I screwed up¡±, Current¡¯s opening volley says its former anchor ¡°apparently forgot what he said, filing a frivolous complaint riddled with falsehoods and distortions in which he refused to take any responsibility whatsoever for that termination.¡± Current contends there were many material breaches of contract by Olbermann yet it bent over backward to accommodate him ¡°simply to keep the peace. Nothing has worked, leaving Current with no choice but to terminate the agreement and to end its one-sided relationship with Olbermann.¡± Now it seeks a determination by the court that the network doesn¡¯t have to pay him another dime. Why? Because he has ¡°already been paid handsomely for showing up sporadically and utterly failing to keep up his end of the bargain.¡±

The countersuit lays out its version of dealings with Olbermann in what it intended to be ¡°a long-term investment.¡± Current claims that contract provisions called for Olbermann to ¡°meaningfully consult¡± with the network on business decisions and marketing and ¡°to collaborate ¡­ and participate in promotional activities¡±. Instead, the suit continues, Olbermann ¡°failed to deliver ¡­ and waged a campaign to breach, undermine, frustrate¡± the company¡¯s endeavors. The countersuit alleges that Olbermann leaked financial terms of his Current agreement to the media, failed to work with Current to promote the network, and was absent without authorization repeatedly ¡ª 19 of 41 working days in January and February alone. Current also alleges that Olbermann refused to participate in the 2012 caucus and primary election coverage specials, then ¡°changed his mind on the eve of the Iowa caucuses¡±.

Current claims that instead of working Olbermann ¡°devoted his remaining energy to cataloguing and complaining about his dissatisfaction with production problems at Current¡±. Among examples of Olbermann¡¯s misbehavior, Current cites more than $50,000 spent among 8 limousine companies and the purchase of a $5,300 desk for Countdown. Also many emails complaining about Current management¡¯s incompetence or notifying execs that ¡°I am not available¡± to discuss issues about Countdown¡®s set. Current also points to an email from Countdown¡®s studio landlord about Olbermann throwing a glass mug against part of the set, shattering the mug and ¡°creating a potentially dangerous situation.¡± And so on.

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Posted: Apr 10 2012, 12:28 AM
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Hopefully any publicity is good publicity for Current these days. They need some lively programming and if Keith didn't work out then let's hope Elliot does better. Maybe we should just forget about KO for the time being.
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Posted: Apr 10 2012, 11:27 AM
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Focus on the good and the future

The backstabbing really hurt air america radio doing the same thing back then
(which is doing things like republicans do...leave it for them, pil and do better.

nasty family food fights should stay out of the public's eye. It's no ones business.
let the lawyers handle it
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