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| Texan for Gore |
Posted: Dec 20 2011, 04:08 PM
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GSC Enforcer ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4483 Member No.: 2253 Joined: 20-March 07 |
http://www.truthout.com/why-media-lying-ab...cans/1324397022
Why Is the Media Lying About New NDAA Power for Indefinite Military Detention of Americans? Saturday 17 December 2011 by: Ralph Lopez, War Is a Crime | Report At some point a sideshow to a story becomes so painfully obvious that it becomes the story, and this now should be: Why is the media taking such pains to knowingly and falsely claim that the new power of the military to detain and imprison people without charge or trial, for life, does not include US citizens? We know what happened. The Bill of Rights has been overturned. And enough has been written on the deceptive language first warned of by Congressman Justin Amash, when he told The Grand Rapids Press that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) was "carefully crafted to mislead the public," for newspaper editors to know better. The AP reported this Wednesday when the House passed the final House-Senate Conference Committee version of the NDAA: Specifically, the bill would require that the military take custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al-Qaida or its affiliates and who is involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. There is an exemption for U.S. citizens. As has been pointed out repeatedly by civil libertarians, the cunning language is technically correct, because "require" is different than "allow," but although the bill does not "require" the executive branch to place American citizens in military detention without charge or trial for life, it does indeed "allow" it. Although Sections 1031 and 1032 were renumbered 1021 and 1022 in the Conference Committee (makes it harder to Google) the substance is still intact. The US military can bust down your door at any time, given the proper go ahead by the executive branch, take you away, never charge you with a crime, never give you a trial, and lock you up, torture you, or even kill you. There is a bit of new razzle-dazzle in the new Section 1021 language now stating: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States." The problem is that "existing law," as the traitor occupying the senate seat for the Great State of South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, reiterated, is the Fourth Circuit Appeals Court ruling in Padilla v. Rumsfeld, which temporarily upheld Bush's authority to hold American citizen Jose Padilla without charge or trial, as an "enemy combatant," even though he was arrested on US soil with the full rights of an American-born citizen. Judge Michael Luttig in that decision fully expected the question to go before the Supreme Court, before Bush pulled a fast one and said suddenly that Padilla could have a civilian trial after being held in isolation and tortured for 3 1/2 years. That made Luttig go ballistic. Now he was the last guy to have overturned the Bill of Rights. In a Washington Post report "Judge Luttig Slams Bush Administration in Padilla Case" the Post (reposted in the Legal Reader) said: The appeals court opinion reflected a tone of anger that is rare for a federal court addressing the United States government, particularly in a matter of presidential authority. A Stanford Law School website notes: Luttig said the government's actions created the appearance "that the government may be attempting to avoid" Supreme Court review in a matter of "especial national importance." So bottom line, yes, this still means you. Stephen Lendman at OpEdNews.com points out a number of other articles that are part of the media disinformation campaign, in "Obama Approves Draconian Police State Law." A Washington Post editorial said that the final bill passed: "no longer contain[s] some of the most odious measures contained in earlier drafts. Those would have required military detention for both foreign nationals and U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism activities....The new approach is designed to limit military detention to foreign al-Qaeda operatives..." Again, the new bill doesn't require the military detention of Americans, but absolutely allows it. The most "odious measures" are still in. The Post also invoked the disingenuous "require" versus "allow" spin when it reported after the House approved of the Conference Committee compromise bill: The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the measure, arguing that it would have required the military, rather than civilian law enforcement, to detain terrorism suspects apprehended on American soil. But Obama's problem wasn't military involvement in American arrests. It was that the law would have required it for "suspects" he had deemed "associated" with terrorism, rather than leaving it to the president's discretion. What is becoming more worrisome than what Anonymous calls this "outright declaration of WAR against the American People," is the fact that the Congress, the president, and their media minions are working so hard to conceal it. If you need to overthrow the Constitution in order to fight terrorists, why not just say so? Why the guilty, criminal frame of mind? Why the contortions of language which make it seem that the bill does everything but what it actually does? In a NY Times Op-Ed two retired four-star marine generals (Charles Krulak and Joseph Hoar) write: One provision would authorize the military to indefinitely detain without charge people suspected of involvement with terrorism, including United States citizens apprehended on American soil. Due process would be a thing of the past. And this is only the print media. The broadcast media is still acting as if the sudden transition to martial law never happened (when the military can arrest anyone in the middle of the night on Executive Branch orders, it is martial law.) The kicker is the military doesn't even want this new job. They are built for fighting and winning wars abroad. Krulak and Hoar write: It would force on the military responsibilities it hasn't sought. This would violate not only the spirit of the post-Reconstruction act limiting the use of the armed forces for domestic law enforcement but also our trust with service members, who enlist believing that they will never be asked to turn their weapons on fellow Americans. Thomas Jefferson said: "I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution." By violating their Oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution, these senators have made themselves "domestic enemies" of the Constitution. This is Day One of the Overthrow, which we shall fight, and Day One of the Media Silence. As Anonymous says, war has been declared on the American people. It is appropriate to always end with the list of those who betrayed us December 15, Bill of Rights Day, a day of infamy. These are the names, and their names are Treason. And this includes Obama who signed it. The Treasonous 383 SENATE: YEAs ---86 Akaka (D-HI) Alexander (R-TN) Ayotte (R-NH) Barrasso (R-WY) Baucus (D-MT) Begich (D-AK) Bennet (D-CO) Bingaman (D-NM) Blumenthal (D-CT) Blunt (R-MO) Boozman (R-AR) Boxer (D-CA) Brown (D-OH) Brown (R-MA) Burr (R-NC) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Chambliss (R-GA) Coats (R-IN) Cochran (R-MS) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Coons (D-DE) Corker (R-TN) Cornyn (R-TX) Enzi (R-WY) Feinstein (D-CA) Gillibrand (D-NY) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Hagan (D-NC) Hatch (R-UT) Heller (R-NV) Hoeven (R-ND) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Johanns (R-NE) Johnson (D-SD) Johnson (R-WI) Kerry (D-MA) Kirk (R-IL) Klobuchar (D-MN) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lugar (R-IN) Manchin (D-WV) McCain (R-AZ) McCaskill (D-MO) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Portman (R-OH) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Rubio (R-FL) Schumer (D-NY) Sessions (R-AL) Shaheen (D-NH) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Stabenow (D-MI) Tester (D-MT) Thune (R-SD) Toomey (R-PA) Udall (D-CO) Udall (D-NM) Vitter (R-LA) Warner (D-VA) Webb (D-VA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wicker (R-MS) Moran (R-KS) HOUSE: AYES 283 -- Ackerman Adams Aderholt Akin Alexander Altmire Amodei Andrews Austria Baca Bachus Barletta Barrow Bartlett Barton (TX) Bass (NH) Benishek Berg Berkley Berman Biggert Bilbray Bilirakis Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Bonner Bono Mack Boren Boswell Boustany Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Brooks Broun (GA) Brown (FL) Buchanan Buerkle Butterfield Calvert Camp Canseco Cantor Capito Capps Cardoza Carnahan Carney Carter Cassidy Castor (FL) Chabot Chandler Cicilline Cole Conaway Connolly (VA) Cooper Costa Courtney Cravaack Crawford Crenshaw Critz Crowley Cuellar Culberson Davis (CA) Davis (KY) Denham Dent Deutch Dicks Dingell Doggett Dold Donnelly (IN) Dreier Duffy Ellmers Emerson Engel Farenthold Fincher Fitzpatrick Fleischmann Fleming Flores Fortenberry Foxx Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallegly Garamendi Gardner Gerlach Gibbs Gibson Gingrey (GA) Gohmert Gonzalez Granger Graves (MO) Green, Al Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Grimm Guinta Guthrie Hall Hanabusa Hanna Harper Hartzler Hastings (WA) Hayworth Heck Hensarling Herger Herrera Beutler Higgins Himes Hirono Hochul Holden Hoyer Hultgren Hunter Inslee Israel Issa Jackson Lee (TX) Jenkins Johnson (OH) Johnson, Sam Jordan Keating Kelly Kildee Kind King (IA) King (NY) Kingston Kinzinger (IL) Kissell Kline Lamborn Lance Landry Langevin Lankford Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Latham Latta Levin Lewis (CA) Lipinski LoBiondo Loebsack Long Lowey Lucas Luetkemeyer Lungren, Daniel E. Manzullo Marchant Marino Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCarthy (NY) McCaul McCotter McHenry McIntyre McKeon McKinley McMorris Rodgers McNerney Meehan Mica Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Miller, Gary Murphy (PA) Neugebauer Noem Nugent Nunes Nunnelee Olson Owens Palazzo Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Paulsen Pearce Pelosi Perlmutter Peterson Petri Platts Poe (TX) Pompeo Price (GA) Quayle Rahall Reed Rehberg Reichert Renacci Reyes Richardson Rigell Rivera Roby Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rooney Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Ross (AR) Ross (FL) Rothman (NJ) Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (WI) Sánchez, Linda T. Scalise Schiff Schilling Schmidt Schock Schrader Schwartz Scott (SC) Scott, Austin Scott, David Sensenbrenner Sessions Sewell Sherman Shimkus Shuler Shuster Sires Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Southerland Stearns Stivers Sullivan Sutton Terry Thompson (PA) Thornberry Tiberi Tsongas Turner (NY) Turner (OH) Upton Visclosky Walden Walz (MN) Wasserman Schultz Waxman Webster West Westmoreland Whitfield Wilson (FL) Wilson (SC) Wittman Wolf Womack Yoder Young (AK) Young (IN) Abstain: Bachmann Coble Diaz-Balart Filner Giffords Gutierrez Johnson, E. B. LaTourette Lynch Myrick Paul Pitts Sanchez, Loretta Young (FL) |
| Wayne in WA State |
Posted: Dec 21 2011, 01:52 AM
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GSC Enforcer ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 3833 Member No.: 1466 Joined: 14-September 06 |
I'm troubled by this bill. I'm also troubled that the great majority of Congress and the Senate who voted in favor of this bill are being labelled as traitors. Having a policy disagreement doesn't make those on the other side of the issue traitors. There are so few areas where Democrats and Republicans can agree lately that when we come across one I'm inclined to think it might have some merit.
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| ReElectAlGore2016 |
Posted: Dec 21 2011, 07:12 PM
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GSC Patriot Group: Members Posts: 3350 Member No.: 455 Joined: 8-November 04 |
there you go again tex
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