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 Qur'ân: What to do if messengers come?
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Posted: Jan 14 2007, 05:10 PM


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Salâm,

Firstly, I emphasise that I'm not a scholar. I don't claim to represent the official views of Jamaat Ahmadiyya or any other Jamaat. I would encourage all seekers after truth to talk to an Ahmadi scholar for true insight into the beauty of Islâm.

These are only my own personal thoughts, but I do try to present my evidence from the Qur'ân with full references.

Allâh (swt) says: "O children of Adam! If messengers come to you from among yourselves, reciting My signs unto you, then whoever will fear God and do good deeds, on them no fear, nor will they grieve" [Qur'ân 7.36]

This verse is in the Arabic present tense, and this verse was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (saw), so that he should deliver it to the children of Adam (ie the whole of humanity). In this verse, Allâh (swt) is telling the whole of humanity, at the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw), that if messengers come to them, then they should fear God and do good deeds.

Wassalâm,
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Posted: Apr 13 2007, 10:17 PM


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I thought this verse refers to the followers of Islam only, (e.g. prophets after the Holy Prophet s.a.w.)
Because the way I know it, is that Hadhrat Adam is the first prophet, but not the first human (e.g. if there is a king and he doesn't have a kingdom, what would be the point to be called a king), hence he is the first prophet amongst humans.
So how can this verse refer to whole humankind?

I thought the verses which refers to whole humankind are:

Surely, the true religion with Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Book did not disagree but, after knowledge had come to them, out of mutual envy. And whoso denies the Signs of Allah, then surely, Allah is quick at reckoning. [Chapter : 3 (Al-`Imran) Verse : 20]

and

Chapter : 5 (Al-Ma'idah) Verse : 4 [Short Commentary]

Forbidden to you is the flesh of an animal which dies of itself, and blood and the flesh of swine; and that on which is invoked the name of any other than Allah; and that which has been strangled; and that which has been beaten to death; and that which has been killed by a fall and that which has been gored to death; and that of which a wild animal has eaten, except that which you have properly slaughtered; and that which has been slaughtered at an altar as an offering to idols. And forbidden is also this that you seek to know your lot by the divining arrows. That is an act of disobedience. This day have those who disbelieve despaired of harming your religion. So fear them not, but fear ME. This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour upon you and have chosen for you Islam as religion. But whoso is forced by hunger, without being wilfully inclined to sin, then, surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, and is Merciful.
[Chapter : 5 (Al-Ma'idah) Verse : 4]

Moosa sb. could you explain your reasoning?

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Posted: Apr 14 2007, 01:33 AM


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Salam.

This verse is talking to "bani Aadama" (the Children of Adam). "Bani Aadama" means everybody, not only Muslims. When the Holy Qur'an speaks to only Muslims, it says "Muslimeen" or "Mu'mineen".

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